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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
Kenri 06/15/22 10:55:39 PM #16:	KamikazePotato posted... Trump is very good at speaking - again, just not in the way that people in this topic series appreciate. Do you honestly think that so many people would love listening to his stupid fucking rallies if he didn't resonate with them? The fact that he's rambling and saying nothing of substance is immaterial. The literal way he speaks itself is engaging to them, and that's all that matters for most people when choosing who to support. Again, if all you're arguing is "some people liking the way he speaks == actually being good at speaking" then sure, absolutely I'll concede that. It's also meaningless. KamikazePotato posted... You can't just say 'Trump has zero charisma, Trump is bad at speaking' when he has massive popularity among a good 1/3 of the country. He's so popular that he lost the popular vote to both Clinton and Biden. Are they more charismatic than he is? I'm assuming you don't think so (I think they are but only because it's an insanely low bar) but I'm not sure by what metric Trump qualifies and they don't. KamikazePotato posted... Do you honestly think, say, Ted Cruz would have been able to convince idiots to relate to him, even if he said the exact same thing Trump did? Yes, with zero doubt whatsoever. Especially if he was a reality TV star. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:965848130] in Politics C... [t:80059113]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>Trump is very good at speaking - again, just not in the way that people in this topic series appreciate. Do you honestly think that so many people would love listening to his stupid fucking rallies if he didn't resonate with them? The fact that he's rambling and saying nothing of substance is immaterial. The literal way he speaks itself is engaging to them, and that's all that matters for most people when choosing who to support.</quote>Again, if all you're arguing is "some people liking the way he speaks == actually being good at speaking" then sure, absolutely I'll concede that. It's also meaningless. KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>You can't just say 'Trump has zero charisma, Trump is bad at speaking' when he has massive popularity among a good 1/3 of the country.</quote>He's so popular that he lost the popular vote to both Clinton and Biden. Are they more charismatic than he is? I'm assuming you don't think so (I think they are but only because it's an insanely low bar) but I'm not sure by what metric Trump qualifies and they don't. KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>Do you honestly think, say, Ted Cruz would have been able to convince idiots to relate to him, even if he said the exact same thing Trump did?</quote>Yes, with zero doubt whatsoever. Especially if he was a reality TV star. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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