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TopicDo politics in the US make any sense?
Count_Drachma
05/23/22 5:13:36 AM
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US politics makes about as much sense as politics anywhere else. If it seems convoluted, so is trying to represent the will of hundreds of millions of people with different ideas, beliefs, motivations, creeds, etc.

The only time when it's not convoluted is when maybe when a monarch or dictator is completely ignoring the will of the people.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
The conservative view is that the country has limited resources. And those resources should be used to the benefit of the citizens it currently has. So for an issue like immigration where someone could become a citizen they want to limit how many do and thus preserve the ability of the country to do good over a longer time frame, even if they are not able to do much good from moment to moment.

In contrast the progressive view is opposed to national identity. If they care about citizenship or resource management it's to direct resources to non-citizens. They want to help the unfortunate and defenseless above all else. So for an issue like immigration they want to do good for the greatest number of people now, without regard for maintain their ability to do so later.

I feel like you've fundamentally misstated any number of positions, particularly since the left tends to advance recycling and conservation measures based on the idea of limited resources and limited space.

And pragmatically speaking, if immigrants voted and thought the same as conservatives while fully embracing their ideologies and instantly providing a net benefit, you'd very quickly see liberals and progressives trying to limit immigration. Hell, the progressives might try to outright block it if immigrants threatened their political agendas.

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