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Never, because it would supersede the consideration of the person who they are leeching off of.

While it sounds like you are for abortion being morally permissible though all nine months, many disagree.

I hadn't noticed.

many have a point at when they feel the pregnancy should be carried to term because the child has developed into someone worthy of moral consideration.

Late-term abortions occur because:

1. something has gone wrong, in which case people like you should stfu and leave these people alone. They have enough shit on their plates without fuckers calling them murderers.
2. anti-abortion assholes made policies that interfered with their ability to get an abortion earlier, in which case, yet again, people like you should stfu and leave these people alone.

I don't agree with your framing about the State forcing people.

I'm sorry that reality is so hard for you to accept.

The state isn't impregnating people.

I don't think I've ever seen someone make an argument that we should punish the men for abortions.

People are coming to the state demanding a medical procedure. The state is well within its rights to say, "we don't do that here because it ends a human life."

Yeah, and so does your choice to not donate blood, to not donate organs, to not damage your body to preserve someone else, but the State still affords you that autonomy and medical consideration, whereas you think it's just fine to use State violence to force people to risk their health and life to preserve a fetus.

Are you pro universal health care (honestly if you aren't then you have no fucking business advocating for forced pregnancies and births, that's fucking disgusting)? Are you anti-dealth penalty? Do you believe that all humans should be entitled to basic necessities? "Pro-life as long as it only applies to a fetus in someone else's body." Wow, so pro-life. Pat yourself on the back, you've saved so many lives by *checks notes* ensuring that the government will mandate that people's bodies be permanently mutilated against their will on pain of State violence.

You know, my younger sibling was first raped when she was in kindergarten. She got her period at eight. You don't seem to give a shit about what pregnancy and birth do to an adult's body so I guess you probably don't care about what it does to a child's body, because then it would be really obvious that you have no idea wtf you're talking about and that you have no business chiming in on what medical procedures people should have legal access to. When she was 13, she developed endometriosis. Endometriosis is a torturous cancer-lite condition that can only be properly diagnosed (and usually only properly treated) through surgery. Doctors refused to perform the diagnostic surgery because they didn't want to potentially hurt her ability to carry her future man's baby. No. Fuck that. People's carrying capacity for fetuses does not outweigh their own medical needs. A fetus does not outweigh the medical needs of its host. The State, insurance companies, fuck, even doctors, have no business, at all, picking and choosing what medical care to prevent permanent damage to a person's body someone arbitrarily "deserves."

This always, ALWAYS happens in gynecological care. "Your future man might not want you to get that, so we're denying you the medical care you need." Fuck off. FUCK OFF. It's THEIR body. No doctor, no company, no government has any fucking business blocking people's medical care based off of arbitrary, subjective bullshit. You pointing out that "some people disagree with you" is an argument in favor of MY position, because my position is one of choice. If they don't want an abortion, they don't have to get one.