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metroid composite 03/02/22 10:33:27 PM #418:	Camden posted... I think Locusts was only the third highest win rate amongst the treasures? The data you're probably thinking of is this: https://old.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/t3s2wz/top_5_kazakusan_treasures_hsreplaynet_feb_28/ The top 3 treasures having a winrate of 63.4%, 63.3%, and 63.1%. All of these being within 0.1% of each other means I wouldn't put too much weight on which one is on top--they're all about equally as strong. (The gap between the top 3 treasures and the 4th best treasures is large, though. #4 is 61.3%, which is 2% lower than the top 3). removing Locusts will just make those two even more likely to show up as choices so I'm not even sure this is a nerf for Druid versions of the deck. Nah.... The top 4 is all face damage (with Pure Cold coming in at #4, and that's just 5 mana to deal 8 damage to the enemy hero and freeze). Going from 4/29 burn cards to 3/28 burn cards is definitely going to be a nerf. Goes from 13.8% of the pool being a burn card to 10.7% of the pool being a burn card. I would still like to see Embers of Ragnaros out of the pool, cause like...there's tons of board clears among Kazakusan treasures. The way you play around most treasures is that you don't overcommit to the board. And the way you play around Embers of Ragnaros is...to have a huge board. If you're playing around other Kazakusan treasures, you can't play around Embers of Ragnaros. Camden posted... Kind of sucks that it feels like nerfing the treasures themselves is off the table. I don't see a reason why it needs to be off the table--some of the treasures already have different stats than they have in duels. (Mutating Injection costs 3 mana as a duels treasure, and 2 mana off of Kazakusan, for example. Beastly Beauty costs 5 mana as a duels treasure, and 3 mana as a Kazakusan treasure, for example. Bubba in duels is a 6 mana 6/6 instead of a 5 mana 8/8). No reason why the treasures themselves can't be adjusted, since they're already different from their duels counterpart. --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:963121690] in Hearthston... [t:79687720]...</cite> <quote>Camden posted... </cite> <quote>I think Locusts was only the third highest win rate amongst the treasures?</quote>The data you're probably thinking of is this: https://old.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/t3s2wz/top_5_kazakusan_treasures_hsreplaynet_feb_28/ The top 3 treasures having a winrate of 63.4%, 63.3%, and 63.1%. All of these being within 0.1% of each other means I wouldn't put too much weight on which one is on top--they're all about equally as strong. (The gap between the top 3 treasures and the 4th best treasures is large, though. #4 is 61.3%, which is 2% lower than the top 3). <quote> removing Locusts will just make those two even more likely to show up as choices so I'm not even sure this is a nerf for Druid versions of the deck.</quote> Nah.... The top 4 is all face damage (with Pure Cold coming in at #4, and that's just 5 mana to deal 8 damage to the enemy hero and freeze). Going from 4/29 burn cards to 3/28 burn cards is definitely going to be a nerf. Goes from 13.8% of the pool being a burn card to 10.7% of the pool being a burn card. I would still like to see Embers of Ragnaros out of the pool, cause like...there's tons of board clears among Kazakusan treasures. The way you play around most treasures is that you don't overcommit to the board. And the way you play around Embers of Ragnaros is...to have a huge board. If you're playing around other Kazakusan treasures, you can't play around Embers of Ragnaros. Camden posted... </cite> <quote>Kind of sucks that it feels like nerfing the treasures themselves is off the table.</quote> I don't see a reason why it needs to be off the table--some of the treasures already have different stats than they have in duels. (Mutating Injection costs 3 mana as a duels treasure, and 2 mana off of Kazakusan, for example. Beastly Beauty costs 5 mana as a duels treasure, and 3 mana as a Kazakusan treasure, for example. Bubba in duels is a 6 mana 6/6 instead of a 5 mana 8/8). No reason why the treasures themselves can't be adjusted, since they're already different from their duels counterpart. --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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