I'm gonna take the hit for CE and listen to this and try to distil the points they're making. It's tricky though because as determined as they are not to be trapped by rhetorical tricks (they make a big point of this in the beginning, how liberals want to strongarm you into assent no matter what etc.), they sure love their strawman arguments.
So their points basically are
- As above, the problem with the debate is that you can't have it without people calling you a bigot. Really hitting things off on a home run here
- Shapiro: I used to be libertarian but then I had kids and realised we're all "swimming in the same pool", so I want my values to be reflected in society. (Actually don't think this is a bad point in itself, but then...)
- More specifically, I don't want your toxic sludge values to be the norm in reality. (Toxic sludge I guess refers to trans people, gender fluidity, etc.)
- Peterson: just because you have femme personality traits doesn't mean you're a woman (gosh how does everyone not realise this man is a genius already?)
- btw "feminine" in Peterson's worldview means that you're creative and "masculine" means that you're interested in things. Cos you know, women like art and flowers and guys like fixing cars
- Mick Jagger and David Bowie and Madonna are examples of people who are androgynous and cool. (See, gender is pretty straight forward. You can wear tight pants and act sexy and still be a man. I am very intelligent. )
God this is a really hard slog guys, wish me luck in part 2