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Topic	Should the mothers of children with FAS or NAS face some sort of punishment?
SKARDAVNELNATE 06/23/21 11:08:09 AM #19:	Reigning_King posted... Getting completely shitfaced and driving is illegal. Just replace driving with pregnancy and I'm asking if there should be legal consequences for a situation where a pregnant woman drinks heavily enough that her child is given a life long impairment. Driving requires that a person is licensed. Substituting pregnancy suggests they need the permission of the state to have children. I think China does something like that. Any step in that direction the laws take is too far for my liking. Reigning_King posted... the baby is literally born addicted to drugs and goes through painful and sometimes even life threatening withdrawal Is it the infant that's abstinent? The name of the condition seems contradictory to me since public schooling in the 90's have conditioned me to associate abstinence with not having sex. In which case there shouldn't be an infant. Reigning_King posted... at what point does the personhood and right to not suffer unwarranted harm of a baby come into being in your opinion? We're talking about harm prior to birth, a "baby" has already been born. A pregnant woman can invoke her right to choose not to give birth and have an abortion. According to the US constitution an infant becomes a citizen when they are born. My answer is that they have rights when it doesn't infringe on another person's rights. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:955343838] in Should the... [t:79528441]...</cite> <quote>Reigning_King posted... </cite> <quote>Getting completely shitfaced and driving is illegal. Just replace driving with pregnancy and I'm asking if there should be legal consequences for a situation where a pregnant woman drinks heavily enough that her child is given a life long impairment.</quote>Driving requires that a person is licensed. Substituting pregnancy suggests they need the permission of the state to have children. I think China does something like that. Any step in that direction the laws take is too far for my liking. Reigning_King posted... </cite> <quote>the baby is literally born addicted to drugs and goes through painful and sometimes even life threatening withdrawal</quote>Is it the infant that's abstinent? The name of the condition seems contradictory to me since public schooling in the 90's have conditioned me to associate abstinence with not having sex. In which case there shouldn't be an infant. Reigning_King posted... </cite> <quote>at what point does the personhood and right to not suffer unwarranted harm of a baby come into being in your opinion?</quote>We're talking about harm prior to birth, a "baby" has already been born. A pregnant woman can invoke her right to choose not to give birth and have an abortion. According to the US constitution an infant becomes a citizen when they are born. My answer is that they have rights when it doesn't infringe on another person's rights. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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