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TopicControversial Opinion #4: Automation
darkknight109
06/02/21 5:34:58 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Plus, for stuff like art, food, video games, and many other things, they robots don't have to be perfect to make something perfect.
Oh, good, you're conceding that robots will eventually be perfect at these things. Thank you for conceding that robots will be able to make better art, food, and video games than humans could and for tacitly admitting via this logic that AI will be superior to humans in many different fields. I will be sure to come back to this point later.

LinkPizza posted...
And you say my predictions and theories have no basis in reality, but they have as much as yours do.
If I predict that global warming is a serious threat to the global ecology and will cause significant devastation, ecological damage, and societal unrest if left unchecked, while you argue that global warming is the result of aliens from Mars pointing their rayguns at us and they'll stop in a couple years, both of those are predictions about the unknown, but only one of them is based on rational analysis.

My posts on AI are based on actual knowledge of the technology, as my job as an engineer involves using machine-learning programs on a fairly regular basis and I have an interest in AI advancements above and beyond my job requirements. Your posts are very clearly based on a lack of knowledge and what you think is logical based on a poor understanding of the technology in question.

LinkPizza posted...
You act like you actually know everything about them, and think they can do everything when you have nothing to actually base it on.
Wrong. You either completely misremembered my posts or are trying to deliberately misconstrue them.

At no point did I say that AI can (present tense) do everything; they very clearly cannot. One day, however? They will be able to replace humans in 90+% of the jobs we do now. And, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that day comes in my lifetime. Future tech seems incredibly futuristic until you're actually holding it in your hands (how many people in 2005 would have guessed that within five years time, an Apple-manufactured cell phone would take over the planet?).

And AI are already involved in far more fields than most people appreciate. Lawyers, doctors, engineers, artists, newspapers, computer programmers, movie studios, and law enforcement, to name just a few significant industries, are all increasingly incorporating robots and AI into their work, and the more tasks AI take over, the faster they will start to replace humans.

LinkPizza posted...
As for the food, the problem is that not everyone actually knows what they want different with the food.
They don't need to - I've explained this to you several times already. They just need to say whether they liked it better or worse than the last time the robot cooked it. That will tell the robot whether the changes they made moved it closer to or farther from their goal.

LinkPizza posted...
If you tell a robot that you want less of an ingredient that isn't even in the dish, they'll probably end up making it the same since there was nothing to change since the ingredient was never in the dish to begin with.
"Probably", meaning you don't know.

Machine learning doesn't work that way. You don't have to dictate to a robot what ingredients you want increased or lessened; if it worked that way, that's not machine learning, that's just you operating a blind cooking-machine.

LinkPizza posted...
But sometimes, the better chefs know what they want. And can figure it out.
You already admitted that a robot, given enough time, can perfect a dish. You're arguing against yourself at this point.

LinkPizza posted...
Because the robot is doing exactly what you tell it to do.
More proof that you don't know how machine learning actually works.

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