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Topic	Controversial Opinion #4: Automation
darkknight109 06/02/21 5:34:05 AM #252:	LinkPizza posted... As for stopping people from using a robot to analyze the food, there is an easy way to stop it. Make laws for it, and set restrictions on the robots. Sure, people can hack and get past those restrictions, but not everybody can. Not everyone has to. All it takes is one person to "hack" their robot and work out the food information and they can claim to have made up the recipe themselves and sell it to the cookbot manufacturers. Again, recipes aren't copywritable. There's nothing illegal about this and no meaningful way it could be made illegal. LinkPizza posted... Riots will ensue when restaurants start getting recipes stolen from restaurants all over the world. As in, the people who either work in the restaurants (who lose their jobs because no one is buying food from their restaurants, so they lose their job), or from people who own restaurants who are getting their recipes stolen (especially places like local restaurants). So, yes, I believe riots will ensue when food tasting robots starts ruining people's lives... Having worked in the food industry when I was a student, I think you vastly overestimate the attachment 90% of restaurant employees have to their job or their industry. Yeah, the restaurant owner might be ready to march in the street; his line chefs that he pays $9.00 an hour to won't be particularly driven to join him. LinkPizza posted... Also, I wasn't saying you couldn't cook your own food, though with us being slaves to the AI and whoever controls the money, maybe we won't be able to. This is a hilariously bad take. You cannot ban an idea. AI cannot straight-up stop people from cooking their own food. LinkPizza posted... Even starting with just the number of people that work in restaurants, or have worked in restaurants, you'd already have more than 1% of homes. There are currently 12.5 million restaurant employees in the United States. Given that that includes non-cooking staff such as managers and wait-staff, as well as those who work at fast-food places essentially following proscribed steps to prepare a pre-cooked meal rather than actually making restaurant-quality food, I'd charitably say that maybe a tenth of those employees are "restaurant-quality" cooks. Not even good cooks like a robot would be, just decent enough to make a living off of it. Even assuming that those cooks were evenly spread throughout the country, that is still less than 1% of homes in the US. LinkPizza posted... Anyway, we don't know if we'll still be able to cook. Yes, we 100% do and yes, we will. Seriously, please keep your objections somewhere in the vicinity of rationality, I'm getting very tired of disproving your strange dystopian fantasies... LinkPizza posted... And restaurants may even shut down. Who would go to pay at a restaurant most of the time if you could have your own robot do it for you? You're saying that a future where you are able to get restaurant quality food, in your house, any time you want, for a price far, far lower than you would get at a business... is bad? Do you seriously not understand what you're suggesting here? LinkPizza posted... Though, apparently, imperfections are what make the art better. According to art experts, I guess. "You guess"? So, again, you don't know. Which means the AI is already good enough to fool you and people like you. Art experts may criticize, as art experts are wont to do, but the AI will be providing goods that are good enough for the overwhelming majority of the population and are and will be getting better all the time. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:954553190] in Controvers... [t:79384298]...</cite> <quote> <quote> LinkPizza posted... As for stopping people from using a robot to analyze the food, there is an easy way to stop it. Make laws for it, and set restrictions on the robots. Sure, people can hack and get past those restrictions, but not everybody can.</quote>Not everyone has to. All it takes is one person to "hack" their robot and work out the food information and they can claim to have made up the recipe themselves and sell it to the cookbot manufacturers. Again, recipes aren't copywritable. There's nothing illegal about this and no meaningful way it could be made illegal. <quote> LinkPizza posted... Riots will ensue when restaurants start getting recipes stolen from restaurants all over the world. As in, the people who either work in the restaurants (who lose their jobs because no one is buying food from their restaurants, so they lose their job), or from people who own restaurants who are getting their recipes stolen (especially places like local restaurants). So, yes, I believe riots will ensue when food tasting robots starts ruining people's lives...</quote>Having worked in the food industry when I was a student, I think you vastly overestimate the attachment 90% of restaurant employees have to their job or their industry. Yeah, the restaurant owner might be ready to march in the street; his line chefs that he pays $9.00 an hour to won't be particularly driven to join him. <quote> LinkPizza posted... Also, I wasn't saying you couldn't cook your own food, though with us being slaves to the AI and whoever controls the money, maybe we won't be able to.</quote>This is a hilariously bad take. You cannot ban an idea. AI cannot straight-up stop people from cooking their own food. <quote> LinkPizza posted... Even starting with just the number of people that work in restaurants, or have worked in restaurants, you'd already have more than 1% of homes.</quote>There are currently 12.5 million restaurant employees in the United States. Given that that includes non-cooking staff such as managers and wait-staff, as well as those who work at fast-food places essentially following proscribed steps to prepare a pre-cooked meal rather than actually making restaurant-quality food, I'd charitably say that maybe a tenth of those employees are "restaurant-quality" cooks. Not even good cooks like a robot would be, just decent enough to make a living off of it. Even assuming that those cooks were evenly spread throughout the country, that is still less than 1% of homes in the US. <quote> LinkPizza posted... Anyway, we don't know if we'll still be able to cook.</quote>Yes, we 100% do and yes, we will. Seriously, please keep your objections somewhere in the vicinity of rationality, I'm getting very tired of disproving your strange dystopian fantasies... <quote> LinkPizza posted... And restaurants may even shut down. Who would go to pay at a restaurant most of the time if you could have your own robot do it for you?</quote>You're saying that a future where you are able to get restaurant quality food, in your house, any time you want, for a price far, far lower than you would get at a business... is bad? Do you seriously not understand what you're suggesting here? <quote> LinkPizza posted... Though, apparently, imperfections are what make the art better. According to art experts, I guess.</quote>"You guess"? So, again, you don't know. Which means the AI is already good enough to fool you and people like you. Art experts may criticize, as art experts are wont to do, but the AI will be providing goods that are good enough for the overwhelming majority of the population and are and will be getting better all the time. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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