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TopicControversial Opinion #4: Automation
LinkPizza
05/29/21 3:23:46 AM
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As for the internet, you mention the library and Starbucks, which are two places that usually have opening and closing times. Meaning that you would have to use it during those times. Which not everybody has much free time. Or free time during those times. Not to mention, there are limits to what you can actually do on the computer. Like it probably wouldn't be acceptable to go in and start watching porn. Plus, with Starbucks, it's still not free since you're have to order a drink to stay inside, or get arrested, apparently... As for the library, it depends on if the library has Wi-fi, or you have to use they're connected computers. And those limit you even more, and have a time limit. If you actually want to use the internet freely without restrictions or time limits, you'll have to pay. Or in Starbuck. Because you have to buy drinks (or be with someone buying drinks) to loiter there... Most places that have free wi-fi give it for customers. Meaning you have to be a paying customer to use it. The laundromat down the street, for example, has "free Wi-Fi"... As long as you're doing laundry. May food places tell you the same. Buy food, and you can sit and use wi-fi. You might be able to get away with it if your friend or family member works there, but that still depends. You also might be able to if you're a regular. But t a regular usually pays for whatever they are getting. And even when you don't, you've probably paid a bunch already... And no. Your lunch isn't free. You friend paid for it. It was literally paid for. It's just that you didn't pay for it. And if you had read my other post, you see I consider free sample as free. But you apparently don't read them, so Idk what to tell you... But no. Your lunch isn't free. It's free for you. But it was paid for. You do understand that, right? Free for one person (or more) doesn't mean it's actually free. It just means that person (or those people) didn't pay for it themselves (themselves)... Which I also mentioned in my other posts (#182)... It literally explains that the food is being paid for because someone paid for it. When I go home and eat food my mom bought, I don't call it free since I didn't buy it. She did, and it cost her money. Same thing for your friend. It's not a free lunch. It's just means you didn't pay for it (but someone did)... As for what you access them with, you still normally had to buy it, though. Like a phone or computer. You don't keep paying for it. But you still had to buy it initially. Which means it's not free. Because if you had internet, but nothing to use it on, you would have to spend money to use the internet. And you call it splitting hairs, but it's still true. You don't pay the phone bill, and it takes away the data for your phone. If you can find wi-fi, you can use it. But not your data or hotspot. Not internet unless connected to wi-fi somewhere, when it normally can reach the internet without it. And it doesn't dodge the point. It's literally the point of this point. The point is that internet is not free... And for a digital book, you could give it away for free... to anybody who had a way to read it. If you don't have a way to read it, then having a digital copy doesn't really matter... And the device you can read it on will usually cost money itself... So, you wouldn't have to pay anything, but they might. Like buying a device they can read it on. Or a device where they can actually see it on (for older people who may have trouble trying to read an e-book on their small phones)... And again, it doesn't reduce the cost to zero. It just means less people have to get paid. But that person who owns the robots who mines the material is still going to expect payment from people wanting the material...

And that one-time cost you mentioned (keep reading for context) is most likely going to be more than a couple hundred dollars. And a decent laptop apparently cost around $800-$1000. Computers have a wide range of prices, but it depends on what's inside. And most smart phones cost over $500 and rising. Many people even put their smart phone on a payment plan, apparently. Some even do that weird renting thing. It's cost a certain amount a month, and you can switch to a newer version when you want to. My brother had it. I just bought mine. So, for phones, it may not actually be a one-time cost. It could be per month, like the phone bill. Well, added to the phone bill... As for youtube, those videos would be on tv. And you could probably just record them like people use to do. Some cable boxes even came with the record function. Of course, those still cost money. How much depended on what you used. You the one making my arguments for me. Nothing you said has pointed to the internet or the other things being free yet...

And yes. The world is in a bad place. And Automation makes it worse because money will still be needed. Even if things would be free in the future (which they won't, but hypothetically), the transition period would be horrible. People world still need money, and there would not be nearly enough jobs. So, the world is in a bad place. And automation would make it worse as the people with robots with AI would have a ton more than everybody else... And free material being available is cool if it's actually good. Basically, you're saying sucky free things are available (which most aren't free, anyway). So, pointless shit, then... And if you want to know who they are paying, they are paying whoever owns the material. Just because the robot gets the material doesn't mean the robot owns the material. Whoever owns the robots owns the material. That's who they pay... They don't pay the robot... Not yet, at least... Unless the robot also acts as a cash register, that is... Not everybody is going to be able to just go out and mine materials. Lots of places where people mine stuff is owned by somebody. And if that land is privately owned, that persons normally get paid and compensated for people to get the material or whatever is there. It's not like lumberjacks can just go to their local parks and cut down trees without permission just because they want the wood... Someone owns the rights to the land. Which usually means they own the rights to any materials. And you can even sell the rights of the materials to someone else, like a company who uses the materials. Or a company who mines/collects the material to sell it to others. Which is what happens most of the time. Your robot isn't allowed to just go mine materials from wherever it damn well pleases. That's the whole point. I can't just tell my robot to go mine diamonds from somewhere. Because some company or person likely owns the mines, or the rights to the materials. If not, random people would already be mining there whenever. Rules don't just go away because robots exist... Somebody already owns the rights to those places where the materials come from. They are the ones who you pay to get materials from. Like how we do right now...
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