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Topic	Controversial Opinion #4: Automation
darkknight109 05/23/21 4:33:26 AM #195:	LinkPizza posted... And then some people just like cooking and stuff... Or eating their own food. And? The existence of AI cooks doesn't mean you won't be able to cook your own food; it means if you want restaurant food, it will be better, faster, and cheaper. LinkPizza posted... But sometimes, the reason people like something is because a certain person cooked it for them. And, again, having AI cooks does nothing to preclude this. If you want to cook a meal for someone, the police won't break down your door and confiscate your kitchen utensils. Cook all you want; all it means is that you have the option of having an AI do it instead, something most restaurants will go for because it's cheaper and more reliable (no need to bring on extra cooks for the dinner rush, then be forced to either send them home after only a few hours or pay them to stand around doing nothing). LinkPizza posted... And imperfections aren't only for food. It's even in art. You're back to arguing that AI are perfect and saying it's a bad thing, yet later in this chain you'll switch to arguing at the AI aren't perfect and saying that's a bad thing. Pick a lane. LinkPizza posted... But the stupid AI would probably keep making it the same. No, it wouldn't. Why would it? Not everyone likes their dishes the same. An AI can make one dish a hundred different ways if you ask it to. Again, you're coming up with these bizarre predictions that have zero basis in reality and really only show that you don't understand how AI work or learn. AI programs learn by changing things then comparing the results. The won't keep making it the same unless you ask them to because you're happy with how it was made. LinkPizza posted... The reason I go to different restaurants is to try a different version of the same things sometimes. And an AI will let you do that without forcing you to travel somewhere different. You could try every burger in the world from the comfort of your local neighbourhood diner. Or hell, from the comfort of your own home if you are so inclined. LinkPizza posted... The problem with asking a robot to make it differently is you may not know what you actually want that's different. You can just say, "Make it more like this," and give it an example of the burger you actually did like and the AI will figure out the rest. That sort of goal-based learning is actually something AI are really good at. LinkPizza posted... Which you probably wouldn't be able to do from your home robot since that would cost restaurant money, which will still be a thing... No, it won't. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:954206516] in Controvers... [t:79384298]...</cite> <quote><quote>LinkPizza posted... And then some people just like cooking and stuff... Or eating their own food.</quote>And? The existence of AI cooks doesn't mean you won't be able to cook your own food; it means if you want restaurant food, it will be better, faster, and cheaper. <quote> LinkPizza posted... But sometimes, the reason people like something is because a certain person cooked it for them.</quote>And, again, having AI cooks does nothing to preclude this. If you want to cook a meal for someone, the police won't break down your door and confiscate your kitchen utensils. Cook all you want; all it means is that you have the option of having an AI do it instead, something most restaurants will go for because it's cheaper and more reliable (no need to bring on extra cooks for the dinner rush, then be forced to either send them home after only a few hours or pay them to stand around doing nothing). <quote> LinkPizza posted... And imperfections aren't only for food. It's even in art.</quote>You're back to arguing that AI are perfect and saying it's a bad thing, yet later in this chain you'll switch to arguing at the AI aren't perfect and saying that's a bad thing. Pick a lane. <quote> LinkPizza posted... But the stupid AI would probably keep making it the same.</quote>No, it wouldn't. Why would it? Not everyone likes their dishes the same. An AI can make one dish a hundred different ways if you ask it to. Again, you're coming up with these bizarre predictions that have zero basis in reality and really only show that you don't understand how AI work or learn. AI programs learn by changing things then comparing the results. The won't keep making it the same unless you ask them to because you're happy with how it was made. <quote> LinkPizza posted... The reason I go to different restaurants is to try a different version of the same things sometimes.</quote>And an AI will let you do that without forcing you to travel somewhere different. You could try every burger in the world from the comfort of your local neighbourhood diner. Or hell, from the comfort of your own home if you are so inclined. <quote> LinkPizza posted... The problem with asking a robot to make it differently is you may not know what you actually want that's different.</quote>You can just say, "Make it more like this," and give it an example of the burger you actually did like and the AI will figure out the rest. That sort of goal-based learning is actually something AI are really good at. <quote> LinkPizza posted... Which you probably wouldn't be able to do from your home robot since that would cost restaurant money, which will still be a thing...</quote>No, it won't. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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