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LinkPizza posted...

Please do me a favor and read before posting statements like, "I need context." Because almost every time you say that, context was in the next sentence or two. At the very least, context clues will be there.

I'm not going to scroll back a dozen posts to try and decipher what random sentence you're responding to based on "context clues." Provide context or a quote.

LinkPizza posted...

You can copyright recipes to an extent. But how the law works is different from normal copyright laws.

No, it doesn't.

You cannot copyright an idea, full stop. All you can copyright is how that idea is expressed. For instance, I cannot copyright apple pie just because I came up with a great apple pie recipe. If someone else, through trial and error, happens to come up with the exact recipe I use, they are free to use it. If this was not the case, every dish in the world would be subject to copyright right now and no cook would be able to make anything without a lawyer present to ensure they were in compliance with rights.

You can copyright a recipe, but only in the sense that someone else can't steal that recipe, put it in their own cookbook and sell it for profit; someone is free to follow that recipe to the letter in order to cook a dish and sell it (or to try and "reverse-engineer" your dish by tasting it and trying to work out what you did). That's why places like Coke and KFC famously guard their recipes - if someone else could work out how to make them (which an AI would be far better equipped to do than a human), there would be no penalty to someone selling knock-off Coke or KFC using the same recipes. If they could copyright the dishes, they would simply do so and save themselves the hassle.

LinkPizza posted...

And will probably change when AI that can make certain food based off other foods become popular. Especially since that would cost restaurants money.

And make other restaurants money, so don't expect food industry reps to stand in the way of this.

LinkPizza posted...

So, most restaurants won't take to an AI learning how to cook their $20 burger to sell at McDonalds for a couple bucks. Not to mention, some people go to certain restaurants for food cooked to taste a certain way. If you've gone to other restaurants, then you know that certain foods at certain recipes may have a more specific taste. And many restaurants aren't going to want their recipe to be used at other places.

Whether they want to or not is immaterial. It will happen all the same because there's really no way to stop people with AI from sampling food and using an AI to analyze it unless they, y'know, stop selling food altogether.

LinkPizza posted...

And I think the law will uphold that.

Based on what?

Again, you can't copyright an idea. Even if you tried, it's impossible to enforce.

LinkPizza posted...

Or riots might ensue.

Yes, people will be rioting because AI gives them affordable, high-quality meals at a price no human cook could ever match. That makes total sense.

LinkPizza posted...

And 99% percent of the population in way too high of a number for people who don't have someone to cook for them.

I feel confident in saying that 99% of households do not contain a restaurant-quality chef, which is what this originally stemmed from, nevermind one skilled enough to make any dish to the exact specifications of the household members.

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