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Topic	Controversial Opinion #4: Automation
darkknight109 05/09/21 4:23:02 AM #173:	LinkPizza posted... Why are you guys fighting to be slaves? Well be under the control of everybody who owns the AIs. Nobody owns "AI". Again, "AI" is an idea and you cannot control an idea. Nobody owns ideas; only goods and ways that idea is expressed. This is why, for instance, Microsoft cannot stop third party word processors that can create .docx files. If someone has figured out how to write code that can do that, Microsoft cannot claim ownership of that code; the only code Microsoft owns is the code it itself has written. Hence why there are several completely free "pseudo-Office" program suites available online that perform largely the same function as Microsoft Office and are even fully compatible with it, but do not require you to pay Microsoft a subscription fee. LinkPizza posted... And even though sound engineers can use certain sounds to elicit certain response, the songs can still sound like the band that plays them. Which AI is already capable of mimicking flawlessly, hence why we have "new" songs from Nirvana despite Kurt Cobain having been dead for over 25 years. LinkPizza posted... As for your business, youre the one who said they owned a small business for seven years and was lucky if there's enough money in the business account to cover my expenses for that month. So, it sounds like you werent the best business owner by your own admission Thats based on what you said. No, that's based on your own incorrect interpretation of my words. The reason I make little money on my small business is because: a) I am in a market with few customers are available b) My business is in an industry where profit margins are typically very slim, unless you happen to be one of the "big business" equivalents c) This is not my main source of income, so profit is not of paramount importance to me That's it. You really shouldn't make those sorts of wild assumptions on something you do not know about unless you want to look foolish as a result. LinkPizza posted... You can say I have no experience running a business, but I actually have some from her. Oh, is that how it works? I guess that means I have experience being a professional hockey player, because I watch them every Saturday. LinkPizza posted... My question that still hasnt been answered is why theyre arent more, though? They have 4 self-checkouts, which are always busy. And like a couple cashiers. Why not take a couple of those always empty lanes and turn them into more self-checkout lanes? You can get more customers through faster. Which may even tempt some people to buy more since they know the lines may move faster since there are more lanes. But they dont And why is that? Good question, given that you've already conceded that the self-checkout lanes are popular and, therefore, work. I suggest it's better aimed at the executives of those stores - they probably have the cost-benefit analyses to answer your concerns. LinkPizza posted... And I was talking about parts in the junkyard. Not ordering them Which should have been evident since I just mentioned building a car out of junkyard parts. Sorry, I didn't realize you were trying to win the debate by heavily constraining the bounds so as to make any conclusion ultimately pointless. In that case, I'll counter by saying that you can build a computer out of parts from an electronics catalogue but you could never build a car from that same catalogue. LinkPizza posted... Obviously, theres not a video of my scenario because, as I told you before, self-driving cars arent common yet. For my scenario to happen, self-driving cars would have to be at least semi-common. Its like youre not even reading what I post. I'm reading what you post, I'm just deliberately filtering out the nonsense. You're making an unfounded assertion based on future self-driving cars - the capabilities of which aren't even known at this point since, by your own admission, you're talking about technology that's decades in the future - that isn't backed up by anything grounded in reality and is your own hypothetical that you've made up and are now expecting others to accept as valid. If you want me to believe this scenario has a basis in reality, you'll need proof that it's actually a valid concern. Proof that you don't have and CAN'T have, because it isn't a valid concern. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:953716499] in Controvers... [t:79384298]...</cite> <quote> LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Why are you guys fighting to be slaves? Well be under the control of everybody who owns the AIs.</quote>Nobody owns "AI". Again, "AI" is an idea and you cannot control an idea. Nobody owns ideas; only goods and ways that idea is expressed. This is why, for instance, Microsoft cannot stop third party word processors that can create .docx files. If someone has figured out how to write code that can do that, Microsoft cannot claim ownership of that code; the only code Microsoft owns is the code it itself has written. Hence why there are several completely free "pseudo-Office" program suites available online that perform largely the same function as Microsoft Office and are even fully compatible with it, but do not require you to pay Microsoft a subscription fee. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>And even though sound engineers can use certain sounds to elicit certain response, the songs can still sound like the band that plays them.</quote>Which AI is already capable of mimicking flawlessly, hence why we have "new" songs from Nirvana despite Kurt Cobain having been dead for over 25 years. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>As for your business, youre the one who said they owned a small business for seven years and was lucky if there's enough money in the business account to cover my expenses for that month. So, it sounds like you werent the best business owner by your own admission Thats based on what you said.</quote>No, that's based on your own incorrect interpretation of my words. The reason I make little money on my small business is because: a) I am in a market with few customers are available b) My business is in an industry where profit margins are typically very slim, unless you happen to be one of the "big business" equivalents c) This is not my main source of income, so profit is not of paramount importance to me That's it. You really shouldn't make those sorts of wild assumptions on something you do not know about unless you want to look foolish as a result. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>You can say I have no experience running a business, but I actually have some from her.</quote>Oh, is that how it works? I guess that means I have experience being a professional hockey player, because I watch them every Saturday. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>My question that still hasnt been answered is why theyre arent more, though? They have 4 self-checkouts, which are always busy. And like a couple cashiers. Why not take a couple of those always empty lanes and turn them into more self-checkout lanes? You can get more customers through faster. Which may even tempt some people to buy more since they know the lines may move faster since there are more lanes. But they dont And why is that?</quote>Good question, given that you've already conceded that the self-checkout lanes are popular and, therefore, work. I suggest it's better aimed at the executives of those stores - they probably have the cost-benefit analyses to answer your concerns. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>And I was talking about parts in the junkyard. Not ordering them Which should have been evident since I just mentioned building a car out of junkyard parts.</quote>Sorry, I didn't realize you were trying to win the debate by heavily constraining the bounds so as to make any conclusion ultimately pointless. In that case, I'll counter by saying that you can build a computer out of parts from an electronics catalogue but you could never build a car from that same catalogue. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Obviously, theres not a video of my scenario because, as I told you before, self-driving cars arent common yet. For my scenario to happen, self-driving cars would have to be at least semi-common. Its like youre not even reading what I post.</quote>I'm reading what you post, I'm just deliberately filtering out the nonsense. You're making an unfounded assertion based on future self-driving cars - the capabilities of which aren't even known at this point since, by your own admission, you're talking about technology that's decades in the future - that isn't backed up by anything grounded in reality and is your own hypothetical that you've made up and are now expecting others to accept as valid. If you want me to believe this scenario has a basis in reality, you'll need proof that it's actually a valid concern. Proof that you don't have and CAN'T have, because it isn't a valid concern. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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