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TopicControversial Opinion #4: Automation
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04/16/21 12:20:34 AM
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Oh. Also, since there's like 28 quotes, and I don't wanna quote them all, I'm just going to try to write a response to each in a long one (or two) posts instead of 4 or 5. I don't have as much time to write as I would normally have since I do most of the writing at work. And only do some finishing touches at night... I call it a quote reset So, it might look a little weird, but itll be ok Itll also try to consolidate certain conversations into one spot

People are trying to do better than AI. But its not always easy. But some still will. Like some people will do better at cooking since they might not tell anyone (including AI), their secrets (whether its an ingredient or secret technique that normally wouldnt make sense). And technically, people can do better than self-checkout when people have a full cart. But even though cashiers are faster than self-checkout when someone has a full cart, they still fired a ton of them And trust me, the future will never be fully automated. Were not even anywhere closer to being mostly automated

Caught up? What the hell are you talking about. This is what Ive been saying FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. There will always be money because currency of some kind will be needed. And that currency will be money. Why make a new currency when you already have one. The only problem is that money will be harder to get for everyone Thats what you dont seem to understand And Im the one who pointed that out. Since early on. Even before this topic

How can they program themselves without knowing how to program. They have to work from something. And even then, we need quality control on them. And even if you want to use Ai to do quality control on them, at some point, humans will need to be there to make sure the quality control is going well At some point, humans need to check to make sure everything is going well Thats where the never ending line is. Especially since youll have to have humans watch them to make sure everything is going ok. And youll have to have robots to bring the broken ones to wherever. And there will just be so many. Also, the picture thing is easy to program. We also help with those image things we do on the internet. It wouldnt even be hard to program that. You could also just send the AI to YouTube to watch all the millions of cat videos (a joke, but would probably work) After enough images of a cat, you can say yes or no to something being a cat while its picking out images it thinks that has a cat. So, I dont know why you think its hard. Because it definitely isnt AIs are using us to learn. So in that case, they are learning from something. Theyre learning from us. But they are programed to learn from us. Because you program different machines to do different things

The reason they should be perfect every time is because they are supposed to be better than humans. So, they should be perfect every time. And thats what makes it weird. You say they are only thinking about the dollars and cents, but they still havent implemented self-checkout everywhere

And I know you can program them to go faster. Though, they seemed like most are programed to go slower. Based on what I saw, at least. But since I dont care about, nor like, self-driving videos, I dont go around looking a bunch up. I mean, not like Im getting one. And I dont see them being common anytime soon, either Not for maybe a couple decades. And even then, it will probably be only half and half, if that. And they seem to program them slower for safety right now. And they obey the speed limit, as well. Which is fine in like cities or something. But I think going 5 over or something on an empty highway somewhere is fine as long as you can control the vehicle

The problem is you arent paying the robot. You are paying the people who own them. The robot is the tool in this case, and you are using it from somewhere else. Like when you rent power washers or carpet steamers from the store. The other problem is the people who own the robot need to be able to fix the robot. And that requires resources. And those resources cost money. As a matter of fact, the resources we would use to say 3D print something would also cost money. There are a limited supply of most items. Like diamonds. Diamonds are limited right now. And other items are also limited. Those resources would cost money. Even if you owned the robot, you would need to get it fixed. Which would cost money and resources. Or if you can get a special upgrade. The problem is that money will still exist, but be hard to get And you do realize that people already have to buy the Vroomba you speak of. They arent free So, yes. People would pay for it (the money goes to the store who owned it before you, not the machine), and the proof is that they literally already do And that will still happen. You will pay the owner of the robot instead of the robot itself And theres still the resources. Even if you had a robot build it, it needs the resources to do that. You again assume it would be for free, which is a bad assumption to make. You cant just assume things will be free because you want them to be. Its like if you bought a robot that cooks, you would still need the cooking materials so it can cook it. It cant just make food appear. You need to pay for those. Even if you used a 3D printer or whatever to get the food, you would need the materials to actually make it. So again, Im still confused why people think everything will be free Even in a fully automated world, which will never happen, anyway

So, its still taught the basics, which I believe I mentioned. And while there are millions of moves in chess, they are finite. Based on how they played before (if they have that data), and how they are currently playing, they can usually try to predict their opponents moves, which is what real people also do. They even use data to try to trick opponents. And they learn from their opponents they are playing against. Even if its during that match. And while the number is high (and may start of going higher at first), it eventually gets lower as the game is played more. And the computer can think of millions of ways to play constantly at the same time. Even if there are high, they still are limited in the moves that can be made. As certain moves are made, others become possible or impossible. And the computer can get rid of the impossible moves and focus on only the possible ones. And only the good possible ones. Like if it knows a certain move would be bad with no pay off, that move is now not a move it would make. Basically, even if its a lot of moves, they become more limited as time goes on. And only certain moves would make sense, to a computer or human And I may not know about Go, but I dont underestimate the computers ability to predict moves. It may not be perfect because I hear some people try to trick it. But its probably pretty good when playing against people who are playing the way they normally play Like they may know if someone is more aggressive or passive with their moves or whatever
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