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Topic	Controversial Opinion #4: Automation
darkknight109 04/14/21 9:08:42 PM #137:	LinkPizza posted... Is it very possible, though. Just because I cant prove something doesnt mean its not possible. We cant prove aliens, but its possible, for example. If you're putting your theory on the same level as aliens, you've pretty much spelled out how realistic a concern it is. I mean, I could say that it's possible that all humans that are behind the wheel of a car could start randomly exploding a few years from now. It's "possible", after all, and you can't prove that it's not. That doesn't make it a realistic concern. If you can't come up with something more concrete than leaning on the Devil's Proof, you're going to have to concede this point. LinkPizza posted... It is applicable to humans... But the cars are supposed to be better, yeah? Yes. And they are, as I pointed out in the exact paragraph you quoted as part of this response. LinkPizza posted... Its happened with humans before, so it does happen Sure, it's happened with humans. It hasn't happened with AI, though. And when it has happened with humans, they haven't all been equipped with 360 degree vision, sensors, and cameras that can be used by law enforcement afterwards to work out what happened. LinkPizza posted... Yes. I think they have to be perfect, or why use them? Id rather die by my own hand than by something out of my control like a self-driving vehicles. I'd rather not die by your hand, though, and that's the difference. Knowing nothing else about you, if I had to choose between you or a self-driving vehicle, I'd choose the self-driving vehicle because it's probably a better driver. Don't take it personally, I feel that way about pretty much everyone. The average driver is terrible, whereas the average self-driving vehicle is orders of magnitude safer. You don't use self-driving vehicles because they're perfect, you use them because they're safer than the alternative. I would think that would be self-evident. LinkPizza posted... And you say that we have new things to talk about When did I say that? LinkPizza posted... Yeah. It was a long conversation. I remember our conversation very well to a degree. I would think you would remember some stuff Sorry, but I don't keep four-year-old internet debates in my memory for ready reference. If you do, I'm duly impressed, but if you want to talk about a conversation that old, you'll have to provide some actual quotes. LinkPizza posted... Which is why I dont think they are thinking about people in wheelchairs. Again, it is literally illegal to do this. A private entity might get away with this, but a government would not - especially not in an industry that counts the disabled as regular customers. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:952841442] in Controvers... [t:79384298]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Is it very possible, though. Just because I cant prove something doesnt mean its not possible. We cant prove aliens, but its possible, for example.</quote>If you're putting your theory on the same level as aliens, you've pretty much spelled out how realistic a concern it is. I mean, I could say that it's possible that all humans that are behind the wheel of a car could start randomly exploding a few years from now. It's "possible", after all, and you can't prove that it's not. That doesn't make it a realistic concern. If you can't come up with something more concrete than leaning on the Devil's Proof, you're going to have to concede this point. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>It is applicable to humans... But the cars are supposed to be better, yeah?</quote>Yes. And they are, as I pointed out in the exact paragraph you quoted as part of this response. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Its happened with humans before, so it does happen</quote>Sure, it's happened with humans. It hasn't happened with AI, though. And when it has happened with humans, they haven't all been equipped with 360 degree vision, sensors, and cameras that can be used by law enforcement afterwards to work out what happened. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Yes. I think they have to be perfect, or why use them? Id rather die by my own hand than by something out of my control like a self-driving vehicles.</quote>I'd rather not die by your hand, though, and that's the difference. Knowing nothing else about you, if I had to choose between you or a self-driving vehicle, I'd choose the self-driving vehicle because it's probably a better driver. Don't take it personally, I feel that way about pretty much everyone. The average driver is terrible, whereas the average self-driving vehicle is orders of magnitude safer. You don't use self-driving vehicles because they're perfect, you use them because they're safer than the alternative. I would think that would be self-evident. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>And you say that we have new things to talk about</quote>When did I say that? LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah. It was a long conversation. I remember our conversation very well to a degree. I would think you would remember some stuff</quote>Sorry, but I don't keep four-year-old internet debates in my memory for ready reference. If you do, I'm duly impressed, but if you want to talk about a conversation that old, you'll have to provide some actual quotes. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Which is why I dont think they are thinking about people in wheelchairs.</quote>Again, it is literally illegal to do this. A private entity might get away with this, but a government would not - especially not in an industry that counts the disabled as regular customers. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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