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darkknight109 posted...

Then prove it - not with your own theory, but with actual data and sources. I'm not going to try and answer for a hypothetical that, by your own admission, you can't even describe.

I cant because the cars arent common on the road yet. That much should be obvious. Compared to human drivers, the self-driving cars are barely on the road. The theory is very possible, though. Especially with how they explained the car works. And especially if they communicate with each other. Just because it hasnt happened yet doesnt mean it wont. We just have to wait a few decades for self-driving cars to be common on the road

darkknight109 posted...

Leaving the scene of an accident is illegal. If a human does not stop the AI from doing so with a manual override, they would be committing a crime.

And, again, this is not an AI problem. Humans can and do leave the scene of accidents all the time. However, the self-driving cars all have cameras that can be turned over to law enforcement to identify any vehicles that left the scene.

Again, you're citing a situation where an AI performs better than a human, yet somehow trying to use that to criticize the AI.

Yes. It is. But the accident may not happen immediately after they steer to avoid. It could have a couple of seconds before it happens. And because the car that caused it wasnt hit, it may not know that it was the car that caused the accident. The human may not be paying attention. Or was so focus on what almost happened that he doesnt know (or doesnt know that (s)he caused) an accident somewhere else. It happens fast, but it might not know if its far away enough. Well, it might know about the accident, but not that it caused it. Its also a problem if a human was the one that was hit by a self-driving car that was trying to avoid getting hit. Because it could be a mix of humans and self-driving vehicles on the road together. And humans do leave, but we would want the AI to be better. If they arent, then they start to become kind of useless

darkknight109 posted...

No, I don't remember our conversation in the old topic because I don't even know what topic you're referring to. Either link to it if it still exists or please stop referencing it, because you're asking me to answer for posts where I have no idea what either of us may or may not have said.

I thought the topic was either a UBI topic made by Mead, or the self-driving car topic (but I dont remember who made it if its this one). I believe it was the one where MannerSaurus (I think that was his name on here) was saying he also didnt like them. But it might have been another one. I cant remember the whole topic, but I remember talking to you about literally the same thing were talking about now. Because it went on about this long. And just like this topic, the responses got longer and longer (I did condense it once by not quoting). But I definitely remember who I was talking to. And it was 100% you The topic was from 3 years ago. So, it would be pretty hard to find. Especially since I would need to know the name of the topic. I dont. I did tag you, though. And I remember what I said because a lot of it is the same. I did go more into detail about the bus station because we were talking about self-driving buses in that topic, as well. And I remember I kept telling you that they wouldnt be full autonomous since they would still need someone to secure people in wheelchairs. And the only thing from that post that was in the response I asked from you was the full autonomous part. The rest that I asked for was in the post from this topic But Ill see if I can find it That site isnt easy to just find a three (or so) year old topic.

darkknight109 posted...

You're right, nobody would buy a self-driving bus if it doesn't fit what they want or need.

Here's another fact: cities are buying self-driving buses.

What does that tell you?

You're making this way harder than it needs to be at this point.

Because its fit what they want, or think they need. Whats sad it nobody seems to be thinking about people in wheelchairs. All those small ones are handicap accessible. Which is sad to see. Im not making this harder. Its just that people suck and dont care about anyone else. Like I said, I know my city has a lot of people in wheelchairs, which is a reason those small buses wouldnt work. Another is they cant carry the amount of people we normally have. Especially for the price I was given in the other topic. Dont know if that changed. Also, we have no idea if those places had wheelchair users. Maybe they didnt so things were fine. Or maybe they did and just said, tough Luck. Im guessing the latter But I guess its fuck everyone whos not like me because I can walk on the bus.
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