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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE TWO!)
Inviso
02/17/21 12:03:30 PM
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Cybat
With how much this movie does well, it is a little unfortunate that the actual central conflict of the movie is kind of a mess. Most of Team Tony doesnt even really have that strong of an opinion about the Accords, including Tony himself, who flat-out ignores them when traveling to Siberia with Steve and Bucky. And of course they are never mentioned again after this movie, except when Ross vaguely threatens Steve in Infinity War. It maybe would have been better for them to wait until after they introduce like a million more heroes in the various Disney+ shows before trying a storyline like this.
But, if you can suspend disbelief a little bit more than usual, this movie is ridiculously fun. The introductions of Black Panther and, finally, Spider-Man, are outstanding (if spoiled a bit by the trailers), and hey Ant Man is here too! The conflict being based around Bucky makes perfect sense, and the reveal tying him in to Tonys backstory was handled with an unusual amount of seriousness for the MCU. Zemos plan was pretty convoluted but the general idea of it is great and pretty unique among comic book movies. And, man, that airport fight.

StifledSilence
I dunno if icky is the right word, but watching Cap and Tony fight makes me feel icky every time. Its so uncomfortable and jarring to watch them beat the shit out of each other, especially when both have valid points in this argument. Its hard to pick a side. One thing is for sure, however. I dare you to not feel for Iron Man when he discovers the fate of his parents. RDJs acting is superb and completely believable to the point he makes it feel real. That aside, Civil War flies by at a ridiculous pace, filled with multiple story threads that require the appropriate amount of ass kicking to settle. Icky feelings or not, this is easily one of the best MCU movies.

Whiskey_Nick
(No write-up.)

NBIceman
I like the Civil War comics event a little more than the average, and I believe thats true of my opinion of the movie that shares its name as well. From what Ive seen, people that dont really care for it seem to be of the opinion, broadly speaking, that the conflict which incites the titular battle doesnt feel big or grand enough, which gives the overall atmosphere a very low-stakes feeling. And Im not even saying thats entirely unfair, because the word War seems to promise something other than what we got. But if I strip away the title of the film and the implications behind it and just watch it for what it is, I think it accomplishes its purpose perfectly. The Sokovia Accords make very little sense in-universe, and Vision seems to be the only character supporting them simply because of its actual ideas. Tony does it out of guilt thats at least somewhat misplaced, Natasha approaches it from a political and PR standpoint, and so on. But the dividing line is drawn nonetheless, and the resulting standoff spirals out of control pretty much only because of the behind-the-scenes machinations of Zemo, who emerges as one of the best MCU villains because of it. Again, I understand the disappointment from people who wanted a larger scale clash, and hell, I wouldnt even have minded that myself. But Civil War decided to be something else, and that something else still has a lot going for it. Its got a good script, great action, and some fantastic character work, particularly on the part of Steve Rogers, who continues to demonstrate why hes the most compelling individual in the franchise. And hey, if youre really desperate for those lasting consequences, the Russos have stated that without the Avengers fracturing in this movie, Thanos loses in Infinity War. So, theres that.

VengefulKaelee
Not as good of an MCU event movie as Winter Soldier, but I'd argue it juggles all the different storylines it draws from better than the bigger, flashier Avengers entries that followed it. This really does honestly feel like a full-on Avengers movie; it's better than most of them and presents some pretty convincingly high stakes involving a lot of different characters. I can't say I absolutely love it, as some things about it are pretty forgettable, but this is one where the big showdown actually isn't a letdown thank to some shrewd writing adding emotional stakes to the proceedings.

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