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Topic	Do you know how to program?
grimhilde00 01/24/21 1:11:33 PM #23:	GrabASnickers posted... I just don't see a whole lot of testing roles out there anymore, maybe it's cause of the pandemic, but even before that I've been of the mind that it's much narrower of a long term career path. Might depend on the company, but my past company (older, started in the 90s) got rid of QA almost entirely and my new company (late stage startup) has a few but that's mostly testing our hardware. In both cases, devs are expected to own their projects which includes running our own test plans and writing extensive unit/integration tests ourselves. I would not be surprised if there were far more open roles for devs out there. GrabASnickers posted... I can write code, but I feel like writing tests is probably looked at quite a bit differently than production code. There's more than writing code. Designing systems that scale, are flexible, maintainable. Things get complex. Knowing best patterns, security concerns, monitoring, etc. I'm sure there are materials out there you could take about architecture and system design, and more, if you want to really learn. There are probably full courses you can pay for that are probably not more than bootcamps (that I think generally just teach you how to code+some web dev tools)? If you ever do decide to do interviews, I would also get the book Cracking the Coding Interview. It includes some system design there too and how to do those sorts of interviews, among others. But you should probably take some courses or read some books too, that's just a brief overview. That said, simple web dev positions do exist at smaller startups. But idk their prospects (startups often fail so you might be jumping a lot) and they generally pay less. But people do learn while on the job and continuing their learning with courses/books then. My advice would just be, don't stop learning here, learn more about system design etc. GrabASnickers posted... or if I need to transition into one at my current place and gain experience. No harm in doing that I think? Would make your resume a bit better and you can see if you like it, and make further steps simultaneously. --- aka kriemhilde00 <cite>grimhilde00 posted [p:949863813] in Do you kno... [t:79246330]...</cite> <quote>GrabASnickers posted... </cite> <quote>I just don't see a whole lot of testing roles out there anymore, maybe it's cause of the pandemic, but even before that I've been of the mind that it's much narrower of a long term career path.</quote> Might depend on the company, but my past company (older, started in the 90s) got rid of QA almost entirely and my new company (late stage startup) has a few but that's mostly testing our hardware. In both cases, devs are expected to own their projects which includes running our own test plans and writing extensive unit/integration tests ourselves. I would not be surprised if there were far more open roles for devs out there. GrabASnickers posted... </cite> <quote>I can write code, but I feel like writing tests is probably looked at quite a bit differently than production code.</quote> There's more than writing code. Designing systems that scale, are flexible, maintainable. Things get complex. Knowing best patterns, security concerns, monitoring, etc. I'm sure there are materials out there you could take about architecture and system design, and more, if you want to really learn. There are probably full courses you can pay for that are probably not more than bootcamps (that I think generally just teach you how to code+some web dev tools)? If you ever do decide to do interviews, I would also get the book Cracking the Coding Interview. It includes some system design there too and how to do those sorts of interviews, among others. But you should probably take some courses or read some books too, that's just a brief overview. That said, simple web dev positions do exist at smaller startups. But idk their prospects (startups often fail so you might be jumping a lot) and they generally pay less. But people do learn while on the job and continuing their learning with courses/books then. My advice would just be, don't stop learning here, learn more about system design etc. GrabASnickers posted... </cite> <quote>or if I need to transition into one at my current place and gain experience.</quote> No harm in doing that I think? Would make your resume a bit better and you can see if you like it, and make further steps simultaneously. --- aka kriemhilde00</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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