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adjl posted...

Yes. That's what "complete moral subjectivity" means, and why people are discussing how absurd such a concept is. Technically, calling the holocaust bad is a subjective judgement. There is no objective basis for saying that. It is, however, so universal a subjective judgement as to be effectively objective, meaning pointing out that it's technically subjective is largely meaningless.

give it a few decades.

if Ghengis Khan lived today we would all "subjectively" see him for the monster he was. since he lived 800 years ago and we are so far removed from the atrocities committed now people cant stop talking about how he opened up trade between the world and helped spread multiculturalism and oh he was so religiously tolerant (so long as your prayed for him).

ask a french person today if they think Julius ceasar's sacking of Gaul was worth bringing france into the european fold and a lot of them will tell you "oh yes absolutely" which is easy for them to say because they werent the ones being butchered in droves, their ancestors were.

people talk about how oh, Alexander the Great spread Hellenism across the middle east and spread this culture as if that was ever his intention. he did what he did for alexander the great, and nobody else. everything else is an unintentional byproduct. they shot a fucking arrow and then we painted a target around it afterwards and called it a bullseye.

the holocaust is a touchier subject because there are still people and relatives of people who lived through it living today. give it a couple hundred years and people will openly talk about the positives of the third Reich. I mean hell, nazi scientists took us to the moon for crying out loud. Even the jews themselves might look more positively on it since it directly led to the formation of the Israel, returning them to their promised land.

its revisionist history. once you remove yourself from the mountains of corpses and try to look at the completely unintentional byproducts of these horrible people's horrible actions all of a sudden they stop looking so bad to the general population.

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