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Topic	I don't really get the "wrong side of history" phrase
Lirishae 01/21/21 10:30:52 AM #22:	Zeus posted... That's because the "right side" and "wrong side" of history are just meaningless slogans used to win over gullible idiots. Within any given moment, there's obviously never going to be any indication what might be considered right or wrong in the future. However, more importantly, it's used as a claim that one side or the other will win, which is intended as a self-fulfilling prophecy. The history of human civilization strongly suggests that future generations will view morality through the lens of reducing suffering. Therefore, being on the "right side of history" is adopting viewpoints aimed to reduce suffering. I'm quite certain that many things people today don't bat an eyelid at today, such as capital punishment and prolonged periods of solitary confinement, will someday be regarded as utterly barbaric and signs of a much less enlightened time. Zeus posted... It's also worth noting that "progress" is a largely meaningless buzzword as well. There are certain limited applications where there's a finite end goal in mind, but usually people use it in vague, nonsensical ways. If you're a healthy, straight white male with comfortable amounts of disposable income and no empathy toward those who suffer things you apparently cannot understand, I suppose "progress" would be a meaningless word, yes. Zeus posted... Really moving the goalposts there. There are only a handful of things that are universally recognized as being bad and, throughout history, even some of the most deplorable acts were praised.... and, honestly, there's a VERY good likelihood that some acts we consider terrible today may wind up being condoned again in the future because we are starting to put more and more power into government. When you give too much power to government, horrible things inevitably happen. Dude, right-wingers are the biggest cheerleaders of big government there is. Invading and bombing other countries, mass surveillance, warrant-less searches, civil asset forfeiture, police murdering unarmed civilians--THAT is big government. Giving money to poor people instead of rich people is not big government; that's government actually doing its job. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:949749229] in I don't re... [t:79250692]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>That's because the "right side" and "wrong side" of history are just meaningless slogans used to win over gullible idiots. Within any given moment, there's obviously never going to be any indication what might be considered right or wrong in the future. However, more importantly, it's used as a claim that one side or the other will win, which is intended as a self-fulfilling prophecy.</quote>The history of human civilization strongly suggests that future generations will view morality through the lens of reducing suffering. Therefore, being on the "right side of history" is adopting viewpoints aimed to reduce suffering. I'm quite certain that many things people today don't bat an eyelid at today, such as capital punishment and prolonged periods of solitary confinement, will someday be regarded as utterly barbaric and signs of a much less enlightened time. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>It's also worth noting that "progress" is a largely meaningless buzzword as well. There are certain limited applications where there's a finite end goal in mind, but usually people use it in vague, nonsensical ways.</quote>If you're a healthy, straight white male with comfortable amounts of disposable income and no empathy toward those who suffer things you apparently cannot understand, I suppose "progress" would be a meaningless word, yes. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Really moving the goalposts there. There are only a handful of things that are universally recognized as being bad and, throughout history, even some of the most deplorable acts were praised.... and, honestly, there's a VERY good likelihood that some acts we consider terrible today may wind up being condoned again in the future because we are starting to put more and more power into government. When you give too much power to government, horrible things inevitably happen.</quote>Dude, right-wingers are the biggest cheerleaders of big government there is. Invading and bombing other countries, mass surveillance, warrant-less searches, civil asset forfeiture, police murdering unarmed civilians--THAT is big government. Giving money to poor people instead of rich people is not big government; that's government actually doing its job. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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