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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 360: The Red Ringleaders of Death
Wanglicious
01/18/21 1:11:53 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Wang what the fuck are you even alleging the government is lying about here? They control the pardons. The government is the foremost expert on how they work. You're basically complaining that you think pardons should only be used one way, or that the government only uses them one way, when they specifically are telling you otherwise and historically have used it in other ways.

mostly the phrasing and the stuff in bold. so basically the first sentence that goes on for a couple lines. this part:

A pardon is an expression of the Presidents forgiveness and ordinarily is granted in recognition of the applicants acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence.

i mean some of this isn't exactly lying but spun - president's pardon being any different than a governor's, it not solely being a function derived from being head of executive, this element of benevolence, that 'acceptance of responsibility' crap where it's basically saying "pardons are for good boys in jail."

but no, pardons can be used in plenty of different ways, it's the perk of an absolute power. gave two examples, lack of serving a sentence, that something you're convicted of shouldn't have been a crime. those two are distinctly different from each other but there's other ones to use too. sentence reduction is common if they feel a crime is overly harsh too - this was the bulk of obama's last day. technically that might count as what the DOJ is saying there but there's a pretty notable gap between "pardons are ordinarily used to cut down a sentence" and that bit they wrote, which i just roll my eyes to since it acts like both parties are such good beings.

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