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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 348: Trump Stumped by Massive Dumps
ChaosTonyV4 12/04/20 2:55:10 AM #224:	Yesmar_ posted... I feel like it should be noted that the leaders of the most successful activist movement in recent US history, the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's, were very concerned with optics. Their actions were all carefully stage managed to appeal to the broadest possible audience. Rosa Parks was specifically chosen for the Montgomery bus boycott for example, because she was considered very appealing and sympathetic, as opposed to another woman who was a single mother. The activists knew how their opponents would respond and attempted to address those issues with their approach. Sure, but also MLKs Letter from Birmingham Jail famously identified white moderates as a bigger roadblock than the KKK because of their priority of keeping up appearances over getting shit done. Inviso posted... What wins have progressives gotten outside of solid blue areas? I mean Florida, in spite of the gusanos, managed to pass a $15 minimum wage, just off the top of my head because its local to me. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/democrats-are-blaming-wrong-people/617281/ Its kind of crazy how much all of these recent posts relate. From the article: And both can misinform. Four years ago, Democrats final messaging was which bathroom one could use, the Democratic consultant Dane Strother told The New York Times. This year it was Defund the Police. Similarly, the political scientist Bernard Grofman wrote, Defund the police is the second stupidest campaign slogan any Democrat has uttered in the twenty first century. It is second in stupidity only to Hillary Clintons 2016 comment that half of Trumps supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. In fact, Clinton did not use basket of deplorables as a campaign slogan in 2016. Progressive Democrats hardly used Defund the police as a campaign slogan in 2020. Even though a majority of Democrats (55 percent) support defunding the police, only one in 10 Republicans and only one in three Americans support that goal, according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll. So few Democratic candidates were actually saying Defund the police on the campaign trail that Republican operatives and candidates demanded they break their silence on the issue. It is massively disingenuous and reactionary to bring up defund the police on Republican terms and assign it as this big campaign slogan progressives ran on. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:947903915] in Politics C... [t:79146870]...</cite> <quote>Yesmar_ posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like it should be noted that the leaders of the most successful activist movement in recent US history, the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's, were very concerned with optics. Their actions were all carefully stage managed to appeal to the broadest possible audience. Rosa Parks was specifically chosen for the Montgomery bus boycott for example, because she was considered very appealing and sympathetic, as opposed to another woman who was a single mother. The activists knew how their opponents would respond and attempted to address those issues with their approach.</quote> Sure, but also MLKs Letter from Birmingham Jail famously identified white moderates as a bigger roadblock than the KKK because of their priority of keeping up appearances over getting shit done. Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>What wins have progressives gotten outside of solid blue areas?</quote> I mean Florida, in spite of the gusanos, managed to pass a $15 minimum wage, just off the top of my head because its local to me. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/democrats-are-blaming-wrong-people/617281/ Its kind of crazy how much all of these recent posts relate. From the article: <quote>And both can misinform. Four years ago, Democrats final messaging was which bathroom one could use, the Democratic consultant Dane Strother told The New York Times. This year it was Defund the Police. Similarly, the political scientist Bernard Grofman wrote, Defund the police is the second stupidest campaign slogan any Democrat has uttered in the twenty first century. It is second in stupidity only to Hillary Clintons 2016 comment that half of Trumps supporters belong in a basket of deplorables. In fact, Clinton did not use basket of deplorables as a campaign slogan in 2016. Progressive Democrats hardly used Defund the police as a campaign slogan in 2020. Even though a majority of Democrats (55 percent) support defunding the police, only one in 10 Republicans and only one in three Americans support that goal, according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll. So few Democratic candidates were actually saying Defund the police on the campaign trail that Republican operatives and candidates demanded they break their silence on the issue.</quote> It is massively disingenuous and reactionary to bring up defund the police on Republican terms and assign it as this big campaign slogan progressives ran on. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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