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TopicNovember PS+: Bugsnax (PS5), Shadow of War, Hollow Knight
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11/24/20 4:03:53 PM
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guffguy89 posted...
Dude, your movie a music analogies are not compatible and are starting to make you look foolish. They are both 2d indie games that share similar environments and quirky npcs. They are closer than what you are making them out to be. This is exactly what I'm talking about in that you are overexagerrating. You are playing right into that point with these dumb, exaggerated, and incompatible analogies.
And Sharknado and Mr. Smith are both well-known live action movies that take place on Earth and have drama as a core fixture of the movie. Undertale and Hollow Knight have completely different gameplay. They have very different graphics. They have very different music. They share some similarities, but most are superficial, and as a basis of meaningful comparison, it is misleading to say that they're similar. The most similar to what you played, fine, which is why I had stopped arguing with you when you had initially explained. But properly similar in a way people would intuit? Literally nobody else here thinks it is

And no shit I'm exaggerating. That's the entire point of an analogy, to demonstrate the core of an argument in the most obvious and readily-grasped terms. If you want a more "grounded" example in the other direction, Sharknado and Jaws, then. You can point out all the similarities you want. There's some inherent disconnect there

guffguy89 posted...
I guess you're going to ignore that link I sent as well
Did you even read it?

"Undertale is also a change in gameplay as its an RPG, but one that breaks the mold. It too created a huge fan base online due to this subversion of the genre along with it feeling like the cult classic, EarthBound."

"So, since the sequel, Hollow Knight: Silksong, probably won't be coming out this year, here are some games to play in the meantime. They all have a common theme to Hollow Knight whether they are Metroidvanias, indie games, have great art, or star bugs. Dark Souls is a somewhat obvious, bonus plug."

Undertale is like Hollow Knight in that it "broke the mold" and it's an indie game. It's specious. The link is garbage for these purposes

guffguy89 posted...
Or the fact that someone like MZero was fully capable of understanding the initial point i was trying to make..something you are apparently incapable of comprehending.
He used the analogy "It's like, if the only games you've played are GTA, Witcher 3, Fallout, Call of Duty, and Undertale, then I can see why you'd say HK is closer to Undertale". At best, that's damning with faint praise, and functionally, it's no more generous than my analogies. If the only movies you've watched are My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle and Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, what might Sharknado look most like...? The only real difference is the attitude. "It's understandable to make this comparison that isn't informative" vs "It isn't helpful to make this comparison that isn't informative"

I haven't actually watched any Miyazaki movies but I imagine none of them have any real similarities to Sharnado at all

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