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Topic	PotD's very own hardcore punk music topic.
argonautweakend 06/26/20 1:33:30 AM #33:	Asking if Bad Religion fits in a punk topic.... One of my favorite albums of all time is Suffer. An absolute classic, and I feel like a worthy introduction into punk music. Its just a fast, concise album but you can actually understand the vocals for the most part and the lyrics use awfully big words, which I have always liked, such as in my favorite part from the song "Delirium of Disorder" "I am just an atom in an ectoplasmic sea Without direction or a reason to exist The anechoic nebula rotating in my brain Has persuaded me contritely to persist" Anyways, Fugazi is another good band. They have a lot of good songs. What I like about them is how they perfected the art of being super heavy and then super slow and smooth. Two examples are "Shut the Door" and "Reclamation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WHAnkJFOMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILZ-Jn-GIgQ I would be curious to know which vocalist you didn't like, Crusher. I actually find it kinda interesting how Fugazi itself is a punk supergroup, though it organically formed that way. Not to discredit the histories of Joe Lally or Brendan Canty, but the vocalists Ian Mackaye and Guy Piciotto were in two hugely influential bands prior. Ian Mackaye was in several bands, most notably the DC area hardcore group Minor Threat as referenced above. This band was super loud and fast, and the lyrics always hit hard, with very personal observations about the world around them. This band also started the "straight edge" movement with their song of the same name. Now, they didn't intend for this but it happened, but I find it super cool. They had a lot of songs with messages critical of alcohol; fugazi never did interviews in magazines with alcohol advertisements as well. The song "In my Eyes" has lyrics that do cut deep as fuck "You tell me you like the taste You just need an excuse You tell me it calms your nerves You just think it looks cool You tell me you want to be different You just change for the same You tell me it's only natural You just need the proof Did you fucking get it? It's in my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes You tell me that nothing matters You're just fucking scared You tell me that I'm better You just hate yourself You tell me that you like her You just wish you did You tell me that I make no difference Well at least I'm fucking trying What the fuck have you done? It's in my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes" Ian's vocal delivery is very shouty and not really refined, though you can kind of understand him. It's not my favorite, but it's more then adequate given the circumstances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsAu-nOg3Tw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2jEHyhBXe8 The other vocalist, Guy Piciotto has a different history within the DC scene. So, a fact about the DC scene is that it is where the term "emo" ultimately comes from. It started out as "Emotional Hardcore" which began in washington DC around 1985. Around this time the scene grew weary of straight up hardcore because of the violent nature of it(Not sure if this is what it was, but I am speculating. By violent I mean like people getting hurt at shows, and the general nature of agressive and fast music). Guy was in what is often credited as the first emotional hardcore band, Rites of Spring. Ian Mackaye was also in Embrace which had a similarly more emotional style. Guy didn't like the emotional hardcore label, because he didn't feel his particular vocal delivery was any more emotional than anybody else, it was just his particular way of expressing himself. But when you write lyrics like "If I started crying, yeah would you start crying" called " "theme(If I started Crying)" and you sound like you want to die...what do you want us to say? Guy's vocal delivery definitely sounds like he wants to die, the kind of screaming that just sounds in a way like it stabs your heart. His vocal delivery style is one of the defining traits of emo music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0tp-Go5IKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra5y1SwQIb8 Between the two of them, this remains my favorite all time vocal performance, for one part in particular. Listen to Guy on the Fugazi song "Full Disclosure" off of their last studio album, The Argument. The part from 2:25 onward. But just listen to the whole song, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzCwXbakHQ0 <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:941273569] in PotD's ver... [t:78793671]...</cite> <quote>Asking if Bad Religion fits in a punk topic.... One of my favorite albums of all time is Suffer. An absolute classic, and I feel like a worthy introduction into punk music. Its just a fast, concise album but you can actually understand the vocals for the most part and the lyrics use awfully big words, which I have always liked, such as in my favorite part from the song "Delirium of Disorder" "I am just an atom in an ectoplasmic sea Without direction or a reason to exist The anechoic nebula rotating in my brain Has persuaded me contritely to persist" Anyways, Fugazi is another good band. They have a lot of good songs. What I like about them is how they perfected the art of being super heavy and then super slow and smooth. Two examples are "Shut the Door" and "Reclamation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WHAnkJFOMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILZ-Jn-GIgQ I would be curious to know which vocalist you didn't like, Crusher. I actually find it kinda interesting how Fugazi itself is a punk supergroup, though it organically formed that way. Not to discredit the histories of Joe Lally or Brendan Canty, but the vocalists Ian Mackaye and Guy Piciotto were in two hugely influential bands prior. Ian Mackaye was in several bands, most notably the DC area hardcore group Minor Threat as referenced above. This band was super loud and fast, and the lyrics always hit hard, with very personal observations about the world around them. This band also started the "straight edge" movement with their song of the same name. Now, they didn't intend for this but it happened, but I find it super cool. They had a lot of songs with messages critical of alcohol; fugazi never did interviews in magazines with alcohol advertisements as well. The song "In my Eyes" has lyrics that do cut deep as fuck "You tell me you like the taste You just need an excuse You tell me it calms your nerves You just think it looks cool You tell me you want to be different You just change for the same You tell me it's only natural You just need the proof Did you fucking get it? It's in my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes You tell me that nothing matters You're just fucking scared You tell me that I'm better You just hate yourself You tell me that you like her You just wish you did You tell me that I make no difference Well at least I'm fucking trying What the fuck have you done? It's in my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes And it doesn't look that way to me In my eyes" Ian's vocal delivery is very shouty and not really refined, though you can kind of understand him. It's not my favorite, but it's more then adequate given the circumstances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsAu-nOg3Tw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2jEHyhBXe8 The other vocalist, Guy Piciotto has a different history within the DC scene. So, a fact about the DC scene is that it is where the term "emo" ultimately comes from. It started out as "Emotional Hardcore" which began in washington DC around 1985. Around this time the scene grew weary of straight up hardcore because of the violent nature of it(Not sure if this is what it was, but I am speculating. By violent I mean like people getting hurt at shows, and the general nature of agressive and fast music). Guy was in what is often credited as the first emotional hardcore band, Rites of Spring. Ian Mackaye was also in Embrace which had a similarly more emotional style. Guy didn't like the emotional hardcore label, because he didn't feel his particular vocal delivery was any more emotional than anybody else, it was just his particular way of expressing himself. But when you write lyrics like "If I started crying, yeah would you start crying" called " "theme(If I started Crying)" and you sound like you want to die...what do you want us to say? Guy's vocal delivery definitely sounds like he wants to die, the kind of screaming that just sounds in a way like it stabs your heart. His vocal delivery style is one of the defining traits of emo music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0tp-Go5IKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra5y1SwQIb8 Between the two of them, this remains my favorite all time vocal performance, for one part in particular. Listen to Guy on the Fugazi song "Full Disclosure" off of their last studio album, The Argument. The part from 2:25 onward. But just listen to the whole song, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzCwXbakHQ0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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