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Topic	Is there such a thing as Halloween monsters?
DK9292 06/20/20 8:39:29 PM #5:	Dreamscissors posted... Personally when I think of Halloween I think of witches and spirits from western folklore, not vampires, wolf men and a mummy. Which proves my point. It's so subjective that is there even a point in attempting to categorise it? If it helps though, a ghost and a witch are part of my lineup. I consider all five of them part of "the big eight" Halloween creatures. ForsakenHermit posted... Gorgon can work but angels and dragons are pushing it. Okay but why? How can you say that with such certainty? What is it that I'm missing that allows me to know where the line is on what counts and what doesn't? Cookie Bag posted... I feel halloween monsters is whatever monster got pretty popular in the media they usually come from, i.e. the really old movies and books about dracula, nosferatu, frankenstein, werewolf, etc. Which means, you can really expand that list a lot, don't need to limit yourself to just really old stuff, you could add newer-ish stuff that is also i guess variations of old halloween monster tropes, like the killer clowns like pennywise, the killer slimes like the one from The Blob, the flyman from the movie The Fly, Jason vorgees, Freddy krueger, etc. Medusas and dragons and angels fill more fantasy than halloween to me and not really halloween monsters in the same sense. You could take inspiration by folklore too See, this confuses me a bit. You say "they're more fantasy than Halloween" and then the very next sentence, "you could take inspiration from folklore". What's the difference? The rest of this is interesting as that's generally what I've been doing. I'm just concerned that even THAT may be limiting me. And then there's the opposite, where do things like an evil clown, a slasher villain, etc. even COUNT as Halloween or are they just horror? Is there even a difference? And then there's the concept of non-monster archetypes. For example one of the characters in the lineup embodies a vampire hunter archetype; does that then open the floodgates to OTHER non-monster characters? What other "good guys" could fit? And more importantly... am I just overthinking this whole thing? These are ALL the questions running through my head lately. --- ''It doesn't matter if we're devils! I can't abandon the person who's fighting this battle beside me to the very end!'' ~Sunshine, Kinnikuman <cite>DK9292 posted [p:940991699] in Is there s... [t:78788944]...</cite> <quote>Dreamscissors posted... </cite> <quote>Personally when I think of Halloween I think of witches and spirits from western folklore, not vampires, wolf men and a mummy.</quote>Which proves my point. It's so subjective that is there even a point in attempting to categorise it? If it helps though, a ghost and a witch are part of my lineup. I consider all five of them part of "the big eight" Halloween creatures. ForsakenHermit posted... </cite> <quote>Gorgon can work but angels and dragons are pushing it.</quote>Okay but why? How can you say that with such certainty? What is it that I'm missing that allows me to know where the line is on what counts and what doesn't? Cookie Bag posted... </cite> <quote>I feel halloween monsters is whatever monster got pretty popular in the media they usually come from, i.e. the really old movies and books about dracula, nosferatu, frankenstein, werewolf, etc. Which means, you can really expand that list a lot, don't need to limit yourself to just really old stuff, you could add newer-ish stuff that is also i guess variations of old halloween monster tropes, like the killer clowns like pennywise, the killer slimes like the one from The Blob, the flyman from the movie The Fly, Jason vorgees, Freddy krueger, etc. Medusas and dragons and angels fill more fantasy than halloween to me and not really halloween monsters in the same sense. You could take inspiration by folklore too</quote>See, this confuses me a bit. You say "they're more fantasy than Halloween" and then the very next sentence, "you could take inspiration from folklore". What's the difference? The rest of this is interesting as that's generally what I've been doing. I'm just concerned that even THAT may be limiting me. And then there's the opposite, where do things like an evil clown, a slasher villain, etc. even COUNT as Halloween or are they just horror? Is there even a difference? And then there's the concept of non-monster archetypes. For example one of the characters in the lineup embodies a vampire hunter archetype; does that then open the floodgates to OTHER non-monster characters? What other "good guys" could fit? And more importantly... am I just overthinking this whole thing? These are ALL the questions running through my head lately. --- ''It doesn't matter if we're devils! I can't abandon the person who's fighting this battle beside me to the very end!'' ~Sunshine, Kinnikuman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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