people ARE losing their businesses, kids trapped with abusive parents is confirmed as domestic abuse cases HAVE gone up, both substance abuse and suicide ALWAYS go up in times of major crisis or major unemployment. hell, it's something like 20% of all suicides that can be directly correlated to unemployment and our numbers are currently around 1932, LA is almost as bad as 1933 which is peak depression. these are all absolutely true and the only one spreading misinformation is the mod there in saying that these aren't all major aspects of the ongoing pandemic. they 100% are. he's wrong, seph is right.
only thing you can really ding him on is that he was abrasive to red... in responding to a post where red was abrasive to him.
All indications I've seen are that these things are happening but the effects in terms of death toll and economic impact are small when compared with the extra loss of life we would have incurred without any lockdown. ---
Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever