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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 288: Ventilators! Mount Up
ChaosTonyV4 04/02/20 4:35:50 PM #464:	Inviso posted... Why should a conservative voter ever want to support a progressive candidate when that candidate makes zero effort to appeal to them personally? We've seen polling where Bernie's IDEAS are super popular, yet when it comes time to vote, he LOSES. So MAYBE JUST f*ING MAYBE there's SOMETHING SPECIFIC about Bernie that, if you would be even REMOTELY interested in actually winning and election and pushing the ideals you claim to give a s* about, you could examine in order to find a way to FIX IT. Take this exact argument and apply it to the < 40 voters that Biden loses overwhelmingly. I hope theres enough old people to overcome it this time! This has always been the entire problem, the Moderate base demands Progressives come to them, meanwhile the Republican Party fell in line with Trumps extremism and fucking won the election. But seriously, why do you keep implying I think Bernies campaign has been perfect? My god, how many times do I have to say it? I wish Bernie would have started counter-punching as soon as he started getting attacked. I think he left too much ambiguity with the Warren no woman can win thing. I wish he would have stopped saying his opponents were electable, because they havent done the same for him. I wish that he was able to get more indignant when Dems attack him in unwoke ways (I think all the attacks about him being an angry white man could easily have been called out as anti-semetic. I wish he didnt just drop into his stump speech so often and would start throwing some more emotional anecdotes in. I wish he responded with more hard numbers when people lied that hes bad for women or LGBT people (even though hes winning those demographicsthe Biden base somehow thinks it!) Plenty more, but this list is getting long. Inviso posted... Tulsi was never a progressive. She just tricked progressives into thinking she was with them by endorsing Bernie over Hillary in 2016 and acting like being anti-war was some weird, rebel stance among the Democratic Party. I mean...it really is. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:936663948] in Politics C... [t:78520107]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>Why should a conservative voter ever want to support a progressive candidate when that candidate makes zero effort to appeal to them personally? We've seen polling where Bernie's IDEAS are super popular, yet when it comes time to vote, he LOSES. So MAYBE JUST f*ING MAYBE there's SOMETHING SPECIFIC about Bernie that, if you would be even REMOTELY interested in actually winning and election and pushing the ideals you claim to give a s* about, you could examine in order to find a way to FIX IT.</quote> Take this exact argument and apply it to the < 40 voters that Biden loses overwhelmingly. I hope theres enough old people to overcome it this time! This has always been the entire problem, the Moderate base demands Progressives come to them, meanwhile the Republican Party fell in line with Trumps extremism and fucking won the election. But seriously, why do you keep implying I think Bernies campaign has been perfect? My god, how many times do I have to say it? I wish Bernie would have started counter-punching as soon as he started getting attacked. I think he left too much ambiguity with the Warren no woman can win thing. I wish he would have stopped saying his opponents were electable, because they havent done the same for him. I wish that he was able to get more indignant when Dems attack him in unwoke ways (I think all the attacks about him being an angry white man could easily have been called out as anti-semetic. I wish he didnt just drop into his stump speech so often and would start throwing some more emotional anecdotes in. I wish he responded with more hard numbers when people lied that hes bad for women or LGBT people (even though hes winning those demographicsthe Biden base somehow thinks it!) Plenty more, but this list is getting long. Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>Tulsi was never a progressive. She just tricked progressives into thinking she was with them by endorsing Bernie over Hillary in 2016 and acting like being anti-war was some weird, rebel stance among the Democratic Party.</quote> I mean...it really is. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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