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Topic	Iceman Finishes Ranking Every Tales Series Party Member
NBIceman 04/02/20 2:50:09 PM #38:	Unbridled9 posted... Also, are you really certain she's a Mary Sue? Usually I define Sues by how much the world warps to accommodate them and I don't recall it being too bad for Rose. Yea, she's got some moments, but a Sue? I don't think so. Zestiria absolutely does warp to accommodate her, both in the context of the game proper and in the meta way that was mentioned where the whole thing was rewritten to make her the main character. And she is the main character by the end - Sorey is just along for the ride. Malevolence flat-out does not work the same way with Rose as it does with every other character in Zestiria or even Berseria. Killing is the worst sin possible, unless Rose does it. Everything that the Shepherd's group does has lasting consequences for the world, unless it's something Rose does, in which case all of the consequences are beneficial if there are even any at all. Zestiria is more concerned with making Rose look good to the player than telling a compelling story. That's the bottom line. And it shows. Maniac64 posted... No mention of Zelos flirting and being able to get items from women? I thought that was really amusing when I played it. It's a fun mechanic conceptually, but the novelty wore off real fast for me. He needs an EX Skill slot to do it, there aren't any really interesting interactions with it because all of the NPCs say the same thing, and it drives my completionist mind crazy to feel like I'm missing out on stuff if I don't grab every item I possibly can with it. Doesn't really affect my opinion of the character either way, so I didn't really think it was much worth talking about. These last few writeups are long enough as it is. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:936658097] in Iceman Fin... [t:78530883]...</cite> <quote>Unbridled9 posted... </cite> <quote>Also, are you really certain she's a Mary Sue? Usually I define Sues by how much the world warps to accommodate them and I don't recall it being too bad for Rose. Yea, she's got some moments, but a Sue? I don't think so.</quote>Zestiria absolutely does warp to accommodate her, both in the context of the game proper and in the meta way that was mentioned where the whole thing was rewritten to make her the main character. And she is the main character by the end - Sorey is just along for the ride. Malevolence flat-out does not work the same way with Rose as it does with every other character in Zestiria or even Berseria. Killing is the worst sin possible, unless Rose does it. Everything that the Shepherd's group does has lasting consequences for the world, unless it's something Rose does, in which case all of the consequences are beneficial if there are even any at all. Zestiria is more concerned with making Rose look good to the player than telling a compelling story. That's the bottom line. And it shows. Maniac64 posted... </cite> <quote>No mention of Zelos flirting and being able to get items from women? I thought that was really amusing when I played it.</quote>It's a fun mechanic conceptually, but the novelty wore off real fast for me. He needs an EX Skill slot to do it, there aren't any really interesting interactions with it because all of the NPCs say the same thing, and it drives my completionist mind crazy to feel like I'm missing out on stuff if I don't grab every item I possibly can with it. Doesn't really affect my opinion of the character either way, so I didn't really think it was much worth talking about. These last few writeups are long enough as it is. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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