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TopicGame of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 1
Master Moltar
03/29/20 3:10:52 PM
#225:


Round 1 Fire Emblem: Awakening vs. Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Moltars Analysis

Fire Emblem has been on the up and up over time, and even GameFAQs is riding the wave. In 2015, Awakening would have no problem winning this match, and I believe it has held up since then, especially with Three Houses being very much in right now.

Deus Ex, even the original, hasnt ever looked good, so I wouldnt bank on Human Revolution being worth much. In fact, Im going to bet on a bit of an over-performance here for FE.

Moltars Bracket: Fire Emblem: Awakening

Moltars Prediction: Fire Emblem: Awakening 69%

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transiences Analysis

Ehhh I dunno about Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It's probably not total trash? It was kinda well liked when it came out but then they made one or two more and that series feels mega dead now. I'm going to have to admit at some point though that oldish games that don't really feel like they play today, might still play with this audience.

It ultimately doesn't matter when it comes to this match, since FE Awakening's floor is higher than Deus Ex's ceiling. There's no world where Deus Ex could beat Xenoblade. But Bloodborne is waiting...

transience's prediction: Fire Emblem: Awakening with 64.56%

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Leonharts Analysis

Awakening proved to be fairly decent in 2015, putting up a similar performance in losing to Donkey Kong Country 2 as Xenoblade. I think the Fire Emblem brand has only grown since then, especially with the recent success of Three Houses, so it might be even stronger now. I dont expect it to have much trouble in dispatching Deus Ex here. The original game has never been anything special in its contest appearances, and I imagine Human Revolution is no different. Ill be curious to see how it stacks up against Bloodborne in preparation for round 2.

Leonharts Vote: Fire Emblem: Awakening

Leonharts Prediction: Fire Emblem: Awakening with 62.66%

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Kleenexs Analysis

I still have no idea which Deus Ex game is which, between Human Revolution and Mankind Divided. I think this is the first one (well, first Adam Jensen one). Anyway, the actual original Deus Ex is hot garbage. It barely beat Rock Band 2, lost easily to FF4, and I cant really imagine Human Revolution is that far removed, strength-wise. In fact, there is a very real possibility that its even weaker than the original game.

Awakening is...well...I think Awakening should be a lot stronger than it is. Its *the* Fire Emblem game that really kick-started the series popularity in the states, and it was a lot of peoples first entry into Fire Emblem. And yet, looking back on its 2015 run, I find myself less than impressed. Losing to DKC2 isnt a great look. Itll still crush Deus Ex, and might end up looking like a monster, but maybe keep your expectations in check a little for future rounds.

Kleenexs Prediction: Fire Emblem Awakening with 70.25%

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Guests Analysis - TsunamiXXVIII

Lets see, what do we have hereDeus Ex: Human Revolution is a contest newcomer, but sequels rarely do better than the originals, and the baseline for Deus Ex ishonestly not terribly high. It made its debut in the fourway contest of 2009 and finished a distant fourth to Metal Gear Solid, Pokmon Gold/Silver, and Final Fantasy Tactics. A strong trio to be sure, but nearly getting tripled by the third-place game and getting quadrupled by the second place game is a bad look. It then managed to pull off the first upset of the first Game of the Decade, squeaking out a victory over 8th-seeded Rock Band 2 in the second match of the contest, but then almost got tripled in Round 2 against Fallout 3. It then managed to get into another 8-9 match in 2015, this time as the 8-seed, and proceeded to barely break 30% against Final Fantasy IV. Though maybe we should be looking at Human Revolution as stronger than the original. After all, JC Denton, protagonist of the original, has never not finished in last place in a poll in Character Battles. Adam Jensen, protagonist of Human Revolution, has in fact finished second in a match in 2013, though it was still a far cry from winning and also the character he beat was from Touhou. So yeah this is pretty weak.

Fire Emblem is not weak. It will still fold to most other Nintendo, perhaps a bit surprising given how this site loves RPGs but then again they love nostalgia more and Fire Emblem was Japan-exclusive until 2003. And Awakening in particular proved quite strong, actually upending the usual Nintendo hierarchy in 2015 by taking down Super Mario Maker and then bowing out in a roughly 52-48 round 2 match against Donkey Kong Country 2. I mean granted the DKC games have generally disappointed in character battles but almost 48% on a first-party SNES game, especially for a handheld game that was fairly new at the time, is really good. It has even made some noise in character battles, getting three characters into CBIX and even getting a win out of one of them (in a rather fodder threepack, but still) while the other two both at least exited in second place, one of them even managing to, uh, quintuple someone. A very weak someone, but thanks to a bonus match, we have conclusive proof that there were significantly weaker characters out there. One of these characters returned in CBX and avoided a doubling against the eventual division winner. So theres success there, too. In fact, lets swing back out to the series as a whole for a moment: the only winless entrants associated with the series are characters. The series as a whole made it to Round 2 in the Spring 2006 series contest, defeating Silent Hill before avoiding a doubling against Metal Gear of all things, while Blazing Blade (known simply as Fire Emblem in the US due to it being the first game released here) and Path of Radiance both made round 2 in Game of the Decade and Awakening reached Round 2 in 2015. I guess if you really want to quibble, Radiant Dawn was in the vote-ins for GotD and failed to make the bracket, andokay yeah that actually does look pretty awful in hindsight. The only other Nintendo in that poll was Mario Kart DS and Pikmin 2, and the RPGs that were supposedly splitting votes all over the placehonestly, the only other ones there from major franchises, it did beat. But thats not important. Point is, Fire Emblem has reasonable strength, easily above the fodder line. Deus Exs only victories in character battles
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