LogFAQs > #933442980

Well okay there was some good Trek cheese here. Stewart really kinda singlehandedly made this work for me because a lot of this material would not have worked in lesser hands. Some super ridiculous contrivances plotwise but that's pretty standard trek stuff.

There was a lot that I hated. In terms of like tone - going out of their way to be like yeah lol this isn't going to have any of the same philosophical underpinnings as 24th century trek just deal with it. It feels very much like it's casting me into shoes of Picard and telling us both that time has passed us by which is a strange feeling.

The action scenes were really stupid and even at just two sequences it was way too much. Setting this up to be like Picard starring in an action-adventure movie this has a VERY nuTrek feel to it.

Android bigotry is a fun bonus but placing the Cylons into the Trekverse seems to be where theyre headed and I am not super interested in that.

In some ways I actually kind of wish it had gone in sort of an X Files direction. Found myself wishing the supporting cast from TNG were present which surprises me somewhat but when I look at the performances of the other supporting players so far I come back around to understanding where this feeling came from.

Overall I will watch episode 2 but really only because Stewart did such a great job of selling me on there maybe still being something worthwhile here. It's still not really at all what I want out of Star Trek but it might decent at what it's trying to be yet

Having recently watched a whole show where Alison Pill had a starring role I am very wary of her having a major role here. I felt like Briones was a character in a CW sci fi show like...The 100 or something. Which can be fine, just not when your scene partner is Patrick Stewart.

I don't think it feeling like nuTrek is necessarily a detriment - I certainly liked a couple of those movies - but two ninja attacks one of which results in an exploding woman that the show really just kind of goes by very quickly with literally NO ONE NOTICING EITHER THE EXPLODING GIRL OR NINJAS IN THIS CROWDED STREET is like to me the worst excesses of the movie treks cranked up past 11. Maybe they dial it down after feeling like the pilot needed that sort of excitement I don't know.

I guess I can understand thinking these are uniquely dismal political circumstances and wanting to reflect that in this show. Its an argument I've heard re: Superman a lot But I also think it's incredibly naive to say things are so much worse now than they were during the cold war and that a much less varnished just....optimism for the future would be the comfort food I crave in these wildly cynical times.

I don't need another Newsroom style show with the crusader for good going on his Quixotic quest to instill values in everyone because frankly that's the story of our current politics and its just fucking depressing. No need for such a cynical Star Trek but apparently only Seth MacFarlane is allowed to actually have an optimism for the future.

Definitely agree with icon re: the plotting - it was very sloppy but I also don't expect that out of Star Trek. The framing feels like a real achilles heel.

---

Board 8's Voice of Reason
https://imgur.com/AWY4xHy