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Topic	Hot take: The prequel trilogy is better than Rise of the Skywalker.
darkknight109 01/15/20 8:09:26 AM #37:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... That's not shitting on canon, though- hell, there's almost no way Anakin WOULDN'T be angsty. Sure there is. There's plenty of "original sins" that could have been substituted for teenage angst. Jealousy; arrogance; anger; impatience; there's no reason why Anakin's fall had to be so incredibly cringy. CyborgSage00x0 posted... Dumb, but this doesn't ultimately matter, and is never mentioned after TPM. "Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create...life." - Palpatine, Revenge of the Sith. CyborgSage00x0 posted... And...why wouldn't that be the case? It's certainly not what Yoda and Obi-Wan suggested in their own representations of the Jedi and the Force in the OT. CyborgSage00x0 posted... On top of that, I'm not sure what movies you were watching, but a big part of II and III WAS showing the Jedi be badass, enlightened warrior-mystics. The only action the Jedi saw in Episode II was a fight in an arena, where they got their asses handed to them until the cavalry arrived in the form of the clones. In Episode III we saw a bunch of them get shot in the back by glorified stormtroopers. That is basically the sum-total of their characterization in the prequel trilogy. CyborgSage00x0 posted... And no one seems to have ever concretely owned R2-D2, beside from maybe Luke from Empire onward. Which doesn't change the fact that even though R2-D2 wasn't owned by Obi-Wan they still travelled together and had extensive adventures. ANH was far from their first time meeting. Even if Obi-Wan had (somehow) forgotten all about his apprentice and partner's droid, there's a zero percent chance that Artoo would have forgotten about him. CyborgSage00x0 posted... And Anakin being an accomplished pilot comes from A) his Pod-Racing B) his exploits on the Battle of Naboo, which Obi would have heard about later. Pod-racing isn't piloting, though. And Naboo was literally his first time flying a ship, where he won a battle almost completely by accident. Hard to call him "already an amazing pilot" based on that resume. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:932957897] in Hot take: ... [t:78313856]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>That's not shitting on canon, though- hell, there's almost no way Anakin WOULDN'T be angsty.</quote>Sure there is. There's plenty of "original sins" that could have been substituted for teenage angst. Jealousy; arrogance; anger; impatience; there's no reason why Anakin's fall had to be so incredibly cringy. CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>Dumb, but this doesn't ultimately matter, and is never mentioned after TPM.</quote>"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create...life." - Palpatine, Revenge of the Sith. CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>And...why wouldn't that be the case?</quote>It's certainly not what Yoda and Obi-Wan suggested in their own representations of the Jedi and the Force in the OT. CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>On top of that, I'm not sure what movies you were watching, but a big part of II and III WAS showing the Jedi be badass, enlightened warrior-mystics.</quote>The only action the Jedi saw in Episode II was a fight in an arena, where they got their asses handed to them until the cavalry arrived in the form of the clones. In Episode III we saw a bunch of them get shot in the back by glorified stormtroopers. That is basically the sum-total of their characterization in the prequel trilogy. CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>And no one seems to have ever concretely owned R2-D2, beside from maybe Luke from Empire onward.</quote>Which doesn't change the fact that even though R2-D2 wasn't owned by Obi-Wan they still travelled together and had extensive adventures. ANH was far from their first time meeting. Even if Obi-Wan had (somehow) forgotten all about his apprentice and partner's droid, there's a zero percent chance that Artoo would have forgotten about him. CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>And Anakin being an accomplished pilot comes from A) his Pod-Racing B) his exploits on the Battle of Naboo, which Obi would have heard about later.</quote>Pod-racing isn't piloting, though. And Naboo was literally his first time flying a ship, where he won a battle almost completely by accident. Hard to call him "already an amazing pilot" based on that resume. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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