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I haven't really wrapped my head around what I think, I probably like it. But reading through this topic made me react on two things.

The first being the page 1 comments about how the games are giving gen 1 an eternal orgasm after being reminded the games had 48 of the gen 1 Pokemon. Seriously, just shut up. I usually try to ignore how I think that the people annoyed by how gen 1 tends to get the most exposure and call other people genwunners are a way more annoying themselves, but this is ridiculous. They include way more of gen 5 and probably some others and even so, the complaint continues because of gigantamax forms. Even among people that like all generations, gen 1 is by far the most popular, so yeah of course gen 1 has the most gigantamax forms, but they took a huge step in the direction you anti-gen 1 people wanted by not at all favoring gen 1 in the Pokedex selection when it mattered most as well as making regional variants of more than just 1.

The other thing being the whole "they're making us pay full price for an unfinished game and then making us buy dlc" case. I do think people are giving GameFreak more credit than deserve in here in general. I do also think people here kind of forget what we used to get. GTM summed up a good part of my thoughts here:

GTM posted...

I'm with the angry people in this topic about this game being less content than older games, just less angry and hyperbole. Straight paths, doors that don't open, no side areas, very few trainers and an exp share to hide that, no extra (game or post-game) cities. This game was definitely rushed to meet a deadline, as it was polished in many areas, and severely lacking in others. BW was linear in terms of route to city to route, but each area was expansive and still had puzzles and things to find and hidden areas in Pinwheel Forest and such.

That's just it. We've always had our complaining to do as great fans, but the current case is not like it used to be. Not to mention BW comparison doesn't hold at all unless you literally only look at the linearity and even if you do, BW didn't hold you hand through it the same way. And like, have you forgotten the Team Plasma story completely? That's the most story we ever had, where SS hit a new minimum.
Back on track, maybe USUM only giving you more postgame, 100 more Pokemon and two trainers talking to you throughout the game vaguely teasing the post game made us forget how it used to be. Doesn't help that gen 6 didn't had neither third versions or DLC, so it had been a while. But this:

LusterSoldier posted...

This is no different than their previous model of releasing a more complete version of the game through a third version or sequels. You still had to pay for a second game to get the full experience. Only with the DLC model, you don't have to play through the game again as the DLC allows to continue playing the game from your existing save file.

is just wrong outside of perhaps gen 7. RS, DP and BW were, however flawed one may think they were, full games. The third versions were no full experience, they were a different experience. Emerald and Platinum were different, they did things differently, and on top of that they also fixed had a bunch of things people did not like about their predecessors. They didn't just add things although they did that too. BW2 did this even more by being sequels and by having the largest amount of stuff to do as of yet even though previous titles had an additional region to explore.

We're getting new areas now, and I'm happy we are, but if you buy the games after the DLC arrives, you're going through the exact same game, nothing people disliked about SS has been fixed or changed. GTM made a few points about it already, but to add into it, SS has no aread that become worth revisiting other than two times going into the gym again. At no point does the game have something popping up a previous place that you can go back and go. The closest thing to this is the only new place to access once you can bike on water. The amount of trainers probably hit a new low. A lot of builders are really just background material, making the game seem bigger than it is. The routes are all short and mostly empty. Try walking from your home and down to the Pokemon game in the beginning then fly to some other route than that. It is so clear how much more effort they put into those two than the rest in the game. I can't really understand how people can claim that we got everything they intended to give us. I enjoyed SS, but there's no denying that these games have a lot of places that are made to look like it had more content than it has. Previous titles just simply weren't like this to the same extend and before the 3ds games, basically not at all.

Seriously, go back and play gen 3-5 if you think that we always got an unfinished game first and then bought the full experience afterwards. Regardless of what one thinks of any Pokemon games, it's just flat out not the same situation.

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