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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Trump has no reason to worry about Biden.

Fact check: Mostly false.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

Biden leads the generic match-up against Biden by ~7-9%, which is almost assuredly enough to secure a win. And that's now, after all this has gone down. Back when this was all shaking out, Biden was ahead by double digits

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447972-biden-leads-trump-by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-poll

Trump absolutely has good reason to be scared of Biden. Calling the election this far out is impossible, but Biden has been polling strongly and that is something that Trump - weak as he is (see above for his approval numbers) - cannot ignore.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Again, Trump needs to know if the government he's sending aid to is corrupt.

No, Trump does not, because that's not his job.

That's congress's job and congress already confirmed that Ukraine is good and the aid should flow.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Wasn't the American ambassador to Ukraine (Marie Yovanovitch) recalled for refusing to do that very thing you just described?

No, actually, and I'm glad you brought her up.

Yovanovich was removed because Rudy Giuliani didn't like her, largely because she was leading anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine that were targeting his business partners (several of whom were arrested recently on corruption charges when they came to America). He badmouthed her constantly to Trump, who eventually ordered her dismissal, despite several people in the State Department urging Mike Pompeo to step up and defend her, because the allegations being made against her were unfounded.

Again, if Trump really was concerned about corruption in Ukraine, Yovanovich was an ally, not an enemy. Anti-corruption was one of her big focuses in Ukraine and she wound up losing her job for it.

No one has ever alleged that Yovanovich was removed for not following orders. Even the State department attempted to say, in letters to Democrat lawmakers, that she left because her term expired (which was a lie that subsequently got exposed).

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Does the US have jurisdiction to investigate companies in another country?

If they involve American citizens, absolutely.

If Trump had good reason to suspect Joe Biden of corruption (Trump did not have good reason to suspect Joe Biden of corruption), he could have requested that the FBI investigate him and his actions vis-a-vis Ukraine. He didn't do that because he knew that a) The investigation would be based on complete bullshit and the FBI would say so and b) It would be more politically damaging to him than Biden if he was seen to be ordering the investigation. Thus, he attempted to have Ukraine do it for him instead so that he could deny he was ever involved.

Clever scheme - good thing Trump's a moron or it might have actually worked.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Since when does the media wait for evidence?

You're the one who made the allegation that Biden's actions were corrupt, brah, not the media. Trying to deflect on to them is not going to work.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I can't find anything that says such an announcement ever occurred.

Zelenskiy booked time on CNN to make that announcement. He cancelled it as soon as the whistleblower thing blew up and Trump released the aid.

Moreover, the fact that the announcement didn't occur changes nothing. This is the "Sideshow Bob" defence, alleging that a crime attempted-but-failed isn't a crime.

Again, if I get pulled over by a crooked cop and he threatens to arrest me unless I pay him $500 and I refuse, then he lets me go anyways, that cop still committed a crime. The solicitation of the bribe *is* the crime - the fact that I didn't pay it changes nothing.

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