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myghostisdead posted...

I didn't say anything about hitting the kids. I am not even a man or big so there is no way I could wade in swinging.

Edit: it also a "Damned if you do or damned if you don't" situation trying to break them up forcefully. I know physically I couldn't do it and I wouldn't because I would fear that I would become liable for some injury. BUT, when kids start arguing that is when you step in, not when they come to blows. There is another video floating around of these same two kids taken on a different day with the same kind of behavior from them both so it was an ongoing problem.

I just know what we are told while getting our CDL to drive a bus. The moment a child stands up on a bus we are supposed to tell them to sit. If they do not we stop.
We can pretty much stop anywhere since we have our flashing lights and arm to pull unless it is a bridge or train track ( we stop before we cross the tracks anyway and I still have the habit of doing it while driving my own car). It didn't seem like a bridge because there are trees outside the windows.

You are responsible for the kids no matter how awful they might be. I agree you could potentially get hit and I have no idea how to pull them apart but those are the steps we are told to do. That was the reason the moment a kid stood up I'd tell them to sit. We've had to stop the bus for rowdy kids. When you do that it makes the others mad because they are going to be late because of someone else's foolishness so the problem usually resolves quickly if you keep aware of the kids like you are supposed to do. Also, move one of them next to you.

I didn't say you did. It was just something that came up as a factor.

Yep. He's in a shitty situation. Not doing anything like he did gets people mad at him. Yet, if he tried to mediate, people might also be mad based on what he did and the outcome. As for it being on ongoing problem, he may have brought it up to the school. But if they had no real solution, then they may not have done anything.

That's true. But the school can still fire you depending on their own rules. Getting the CDL, you have certain rules to follow. I only know because when practicing for my CDL, we practice at the same area as the school buses. But that's for the license. The school still has their own rules to follow. While they most likely don't contradict the law or CDL rules, doing certain things a certain way can cause a lot of trouble. And could cost you your job... Depending on the school...

You are responsible for them. But that's why you have to choose the right thing to do. Just because something seems simple or like the right choice doesn't always mean it is. Especially if he has worked with those kids before. Or tried different things before... But getting hit is bad because you'd need another school bus drivers. And not even a regular bus driver can do it because the rules are more strict when it comes to school buses. Also, you're using adult logic. On a bus where people are going to be late, adult will resolve the problem. I've seen that many times at my job. Or heard of it, as well. But kids don't care, most of the time. If they're late, that's less school. They may care a little on the way home, but some don't. And in this case, they were all excited to watch and record, it seems... The only ones that would be mad about when they got home (or to the bus stop) would be the parents. Which would land the bus driver in hot water. And while moving them can help, there's possibility it won't. Like, they might bring the fight up there, which becomes an even more dangerous situation...
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