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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 250: Hearing Laws
red sox 777 12/01/19 8:41:06 PM #417:	Jakyl25 posted... Innocent until proven guilty is untenable anyway In many cases, if you presume innocence on charges like rape, then youre implying that the accusers are lying until its proven they arent. Which is in and of itself a crime, so you have to consider THEM innocent of lying, which would mean the accused rapist would have to be guilty That's why we don't have private prosecutions anymore. The accuser is the sovereign, which (1) has no personal knowledge, and therefore cannot be lying under oath, and (2) is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution anyway. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:930974930] in Politics C... [t:78196160]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty is untenable anyway In many cases, if you presume innocence on charges like rape, then youre implying that the accusers are lying until its proven they arent. Which is in and of itself a crime, so you have to consider THEM innocent of lying, which would mean the accused rapist would have to be guilty</quote> That's why we don't have private prosecutions anymore. The accuser is the sovereign, which (1) has no personal knowledge, and therefore cannot be lying under oath, and (2) is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution anyway. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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