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Topic	All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
NBIceman 11/12/19 3:07:02 PM #133:	Eddv posted... Well I think for sportslike presentation you are imagining like dry characters and interviews we get with say professional football. The actual genius of the sportslike presentation is that you do still get characters to emerge. Things they care about and are. You still get your Connor McGregors and Jon Joneses and since the whole thing is fixed you can control and develop such conflicts over time such that when you do choose to go soap opera you're going there with a fleshed out character and you're going to resolve it in the ring because that makes sense. The reverse is when youre so storybased that the question "why is this resolving in a wrestling match" doesnt really have an answer. Why hasn't Seth Rollins just showed up on raw with an Uzzi to end The Fiend once and for all? Almost nothing about their feud has a single god damn thing to do with Wrestling. And the Fiend is clearly a monster and probably a child predator so he'd be somewhat justified in his actions. Right. A lot of wrestling fans seem to take "sportslike" as some kind of dirty word that's trying to strip away everything that makes wrestling a unique medium. What I'm actually trying to communicate is that the tendency to get caught up in the grand "why" of stories actually strips away that unique mythos that wrestling has. When I say I want wrestling storylines to be rooted in one guy proving he's better than the other, I mean "rooted." That doesn't mean there isn't room to expand on that based on character histories, personalities, etc. The best storyline in the past decade of wrestling was the Okada/Tanahashi rivalry. The core basis of that rivalry was that they were trying to prove they were better than each other. But over the years, their motivations changed so much as their characters grew, and their reasons for wanting to be better than the other kept evolving. Tanahashi went from the pure, admirable, undeniable pillar of the company who believed Okada didn't represent NJPW well as champion to a desperate man on the downturn of his career, fighting against the new ace who'd become everything Tanahashi said he couldn't, just to prove that he still had a little bit left in the tank. You don't need anything more than that. Those two men, despite all the grandiose showmanship that defines them, are simple and believable, but no less compelling for it. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:930037375] in All-Purpos... [t:78137201]...</cite> <quote>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>Well I think for sportslike presentation you are imagining like dry characters and interviews we get with say professional football. The actual genius of the sportslike presentation is that you do still get characters to emerge. Things they care about and are. You still get your Connor McGregors and Jon Joneses and since the whole thing is fixed you can control and develop such conflicts over time such that when you do choose to go soap opera you're going there with a fleshed out character and you're going to resolve it in the ring because that makes sense. The reverse is when youre so storybased that the question "why is this resolving in a wrestling match" doesnt really have an answer. Why hasn't Seth Rollins just showed up on raw with an Uzzi to end The Fiend once and for all? Almost nothing about their feud has a single god damn thing to do with Wrestling. And the Fiend is clearly a monster and probably a child predator so he'd be somewhat justified in his actions. </quote> Right. A lot of wrestling fans seem to take "sportslike" as some kind of dirty word that's trying to strip away everything that makes wrestling a unique medium. What I'm actually trying to communicate is that the tendency to get caught up in the grand "why" of stories actually strips away that unique mythos that wrestling has. When I say I want wrestling storylines to be rooted in one guy proving he's better than the other, I mean "rooted." That doesn't mean there isn't room to expand on that based on character histories, personalities, etc. The best storyline in the past decade of wrestling was the Okada/Tanahashi rivalry. The core basis of that rivalry was that they were trying to prove they were better than each other. But over the years, their motivations changed so much as their characters grew, and their reasons for wanting to be better than the other kept evolving. Tanahashi went from the pure, admirable, undeniable pillar of the company who believed Okada didn't represent NJPW well as champion to a desperate man on the downturn of his career, fighting against the new ace who'd become everything Tanahashi said he couldn't, just to prove that he still had a little bit left in the tank. You don't need anything more than that. Those two men, despite all the grandiose showmanship that defines them, are simple and believable, but no less compelling for it. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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