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Safer_777 posted...

I believe it will be a bad contest and maybe even the worst.

I believe your perspective is awfully, unwarrantedly pessimistic.

To start with, yes, we have a pretty obvious Nintendo winner without mass rallies. I still hold that an intelligently-constructed bracket will have plenty of interesting matches and set-ups along the way, including a fair few between real heavy-hitters.

The truly daft part of your post is your claim that "in the Final 8 we will have 8 Nintendo games." I do agree with you that the FF games, MGSV, and BR games aren't serious top 8 contenders. I'll even concede that Bethesda's actions have utterly screwed over the Fallout series here, and that either Fallout game will be very lucky to make it past round 3.

However, your claim that "maybe Skyrim will win 2 matches" in what should be one of the weakest fields we've ever seen is, quite frankly, absurd. If the Fallout backlash has really spread so strongly to other Bethesda series, why are people (not here, but still) so hyped for Doom Eternal? Why is The Elder Scrolls VI by far the most anticipated unannounced game? Why are Skyrim Special Edition's recent Steam reviews more positive than its lifetime Steam reviews, even though Steam's userbase is well-known for mass spite-posting negative reviews in response to situations like this?

Remember that as of 2015, Skyrim was the #1 game of the 2010s, having won 3 matches against much stronger opposition than it will be facing this GotD. Since then, BotW has certainly overtaken it, and despite its lacking GotY performance, Smash Ultimate may have done the same. Mario Odyssey is a recent Mario game, so I'm skeptical at best that it could beat Skyrim, and there's no other Nintendo games in this field that will even come close to Skyrim's 2015 strength.

There's also Dark Souls, which looked respectable in 2015 and holds huge cachet among gamers nowadays; The Witcher 3, which was non-fodder in 2015, at a much lower playrate than it will have today, plus Geralt impressed in CBX; The Last of Us, which was a solid midcarder in 2015; God of War, which almost beat Smash Ultimate in GotY; and I could see the likes of Nier: Automata and Persona 5 surprising. I can't think of eight eligible Nintendo games that would likely beat any of the first four: there's BotW, Smash Ultimate, Mario Odyssey, Link Between Worlds, maybe Three Houses or Sword/Shield, and what else?

Denzokuken posted...

I think it makes the contest much more interesting

I think that past evidence suggests otherwise. Yes, we'll get some (theoretically) close and dramatic matches out of the deal, but here's the trick: once it gets the ball rolling, the Draven/Undertale type of rally bait never actually lets its opponent(s) win. If the rally bait faces something like Super Mario 64 that isn't a serious contender to knock it off, the rallies will slack, giving the illusion of a close match. If, on the other hand, we're talking about something like Link or Snake where the rally bait has to pull out all the stops to win, they will do so - and as such, I don't believe for a moment that Link would have won without the DDoS. Also, from a more selfish perspective, I hate the toxicity mass rallies inevitably produce here.

However, I'll admit my biases and hypocrisy straight-up and say that I would be (mostly) for a mass rally steamrolling this GotD, as long as Night in the Woods is somehow the mass-rallied game.

metaIslug posted...

>Splatoon

Neither Splatoon game will be any sort of serious contender on GameFAQs of all sites.
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