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TopicTrump is telling officials to start seizing private land for border wall
darkknight109
08/28/19 1:53:40 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
...if you picked up a history book, "America First" was historically a guiding philosophy:
https://theweek.com/articles/627638/brief-history-american-isolationism

And American interventionism is responsible for installing dictators throughout much of the world and played a hand in both the creation of ISIS and the current refugee crisis.

So you've just laid out how "America First" created some of the country's biggest problems of the modern era.

Do you see the issue yet?

Broken_Zeus posted...
He doesn't "hide" his college grades.

Yes, he did.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2019/02/28/heres-why-donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/#51304a893764

At the same time Trump was claiming - with no evidence - that his grades were higher than Obama's, he had Cohen send threatening letters to his high school and colleges warning them that he would sue them if his grades were ever made public. He even had some of his fellow alumni threaten the military academy he graduated from, pressuring them to bury his records (they wound up moving them to a separate location from the rest of the records).

Broken_Zeus posted...
He didn't "pay" for sex, he allegedly paid them to shut up afterward.

No, according to Karen McDougal, he tried to pay for the sex too.

Broken_Zeus posted...
The charity thing is ambiguous.

I mean sure, I guess, if you consider having to shut down your charity over what a judge calls "a shocking pattern of illegality" to be ambiguous...

Broken_Zeus posted...
He had a medical exemption.

Widely accepted to be spurious given that it was granted by a doctor who was renting from Fred Trump, with the doctor's own daughters saying that the diagnosis was made "as a favour" to Fred (and Trump's "debilitating" bone spurs didn't seem to hinder him from playing football in college). And yes, that is 100% draft-dodging.

Honestly, I don't really give a shit whether he dodged the draft - he's far from the only White House occupant who did so (fun fact: there has never been a US president who was actually deployed to Vietnam, and there probably never will be) and I don't fault anyone for deciding, when forcibly conscripted for a conflict they don't believe in or have no personal stake in, to place a premium on the value of their life and decline the order, in whatever form that takes. On the list of "objectionable things Donald Trump has done", draft dodging isn't anywhere near the top - there are literally hundreds of more relevant and obnoxious things we can spend our time talking about instead.

What annoys me is the dishonesty. Unlike other draft-dodging politicians, who at least have the good graces to show contrition when talking about those who weren't well-connected enough to evade the draft, Trump still acts like he deserves all the respect and admiration afforded to vets. When he talks about things like how dodging STDs was "his own personal Vietnam", or how "would've been honoured" to serve in Vietnam, as though it wasn't his choice to seek a deferment, that's the objectionable part - not the fact that he decided he didn't want to die in a jungle in southeast Asia.
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