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Topic	22 y/o MISOGYNIST Murdered his G/F because she REFUSED to get an ABORTION!!!
Lirishae 08/01/19 4:38:03 PM #43:	nfmsz posted... You're being dishonest here. You are intentionally misrepresenting reality to suit a narrative. Women are not and never have been the exclusive caretaker in a child's life and they never will be. You are doing exactly what I said was disingenuous in the first place: minimizing women to the status of children when it suits your narrative. How on earth is what I said minimizing women to the status of children? It's a simple fact that women perform most of the childcare in this country. If you can't acknowledge that, you're being disingenuous. nfmsz posted... Yet again, this is a double standard. You are placing all of the responsibility solely on one participant. It's dishonest. Take responsibility for YOURSELF. The fact that you bristle at a suggestion that men wear condoms if they don't want to be fathers, and instead expect women to bear of the burden of not getting pregnant because it will inconvenience the man, is ridiculous. 60% of childbearing women use birth control compared to just 19% of men who reliably use condoms. This is in spite of the fact that birth control for women is more expensive, more difficult to access, and has side effects that can be brutal, even life-threatening. nfmsz posted... Where are the high profile, high visibility articles about one individual man who committed suicide after being ravaged by a one-sided divorce? Oh, they don't really exist? Equating suicide with homicide is still just as ridiculous, and you're still just as wrong. https://nypost.com/2017/02/12/surgeon-jumps-from-bridge-after-divorce-from-tv-personality-wife/ http://archive.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/07/10/divorced_dad_leaves_clues_to_his_desperation/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667880/Models-husband-commits-suicide-just-weeks-photographed-getting-cozy-Leonardo-DiCaprio.html https://blogs.findlaw.com/greedy_associates/2017/09/man-commits-suicide-at-law-firm-representing-ex-wife.html nfmsz posted... You basically just said "I don't care if people commit suicide because they've had their entire lives stolen from them forcibly by a court" while simultaneously trying to play morality police. Not what I said at all. What if I accused you of not caring about women killed by their romantic partners because you've spent a whole topic about that issue instead making a big stink about how unfair it is that men have to pay child support? I'm not saying that, mind you, just trying to show you that making assumptions doesn't work. nfmsz posted... You keep the child, buuuut, he doesn't have to raise it. No one is asking him to raise the child if he doesn't want to, but society does expect him to contribute something. Judges prioritize the welfare of the child over the welfare of the parents. nfmsz posted... You act like female birth control doesn't exist. We're talking a situation in which the male does not want the child, but the female does. Female birth control isn't relevant to the discussion. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:925488226] in 22 y/o MIS... [t:77903066]...</cite> <quote>nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>You're being dishonest here. You are intentionally misrepresenting reality to suit a narrative. Women are not and never have been the exclusive caretaker in a child's life and they never will be. You are doing exactly what I said was disingenuous in the first place: minimizing women to the status of children when it suits your narrative.</quote> How on earth is what I said minimizing women to the status of children? It's a simple fact that women perform most of the childcare in this country. If you can't acknowledge that, you're being disingenuous. nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>Yet again, this is a double standard. You are placing all of the responsibility solely on one participant. It's dishonest. Take responsibility for YOURSELF.</quote> The fact that you bristle at a suggestion that men wear condoms if they don't want to be fathers, and instead expect women to bear of the burden of not getting pregnant because it will inconvenience the man, is ridiculous. 60% of childbearing women use birth control compared to just 19% of men who reliably use condoms. This is in spite of the fact that birth control for women is more expensive, more difficult to access, and has side effects that can be brutal, even life-threatening. nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>Where are the high profile, high visibility articles about one individual man who committed suicide after being ravaged by a one-sided divorce? Oh, they don't really exist?</quote> Equating suicide with homicide is still just as ridiculous, and you're still just as wrong. https://nypost.com/2017/02/12/surgeon-jumps-from-bridge-after-divorce-from-tv-personality-wife/ http://archive.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/07/10/divorced_dad_leaves_clues_to_his_desperation/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667880/Models-husband-commits-suicide-just-weeks-photographed-getting-cozy-Leonardo-DiCaprio.html https://blogs.findlaw.com/greedy_associates/2017/09/man-commits-suicide-at-law-firm-representing-ex-wife.html nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>You basically just said "I don't care if people commit suicide because they've had their entire lives stolen from them forcibly by a court" while simultaneously trying to play morality police.</quote> Not what I said at all. What if I accused you of not caring about women killed by their romantic partners because you've spent a whole topic about that issue instead making a big stink about how unfair it is that men have to pay child support? I'm not saying that, mind you, just trying to show you that making assumptions doesn't work. nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>You keep the child, buuuut, he doesn't have to raise it.</quote> No one is asking him to raise the child if he doesn't want to, but society does expect him to contribute something. Judges prioritize the welfare of the child over the welfare of the parents. nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>You act like female birth control doesn't exist.</quote> We're talking a situation in which the male does not want the child, but the female does. Female birth control isn't relevant to the discussion. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155</quote> ... 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