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Lirishae posted...

What's dishonest here is pretending that men and women's say should be equal when the responsibility and consequences are inherently unequal. Because women actually carry the pregnancy, they assume all of the health risks and the lion's share of childcare. This is why they get the final say in whether or not to abort. The alternative is allowing men with no legal relationship to a woman to make medical decisions on her behalf. If you don't see why that's wrong, there's probably nothing I can say that will help you understand.

You're being dishonest here. You are intentionally misrepresenting reality to suit a narrative. Women are not and never have been the exclusive caretaker in a child's life and they never will be. You are doing exactly what I said was disingenuous in the first place: minimizing women to the status of children when it suits your narrative.

All of which the man could have avoided if he'd used a condom. Your idea of equality is apparently men being able to father children and abandon them. Single women are already holding up their end of the bargain; they take care of the child and pay most of the costs for raising them (which are enormous btw; I sincerely doubt the woman in your example will have any money left over). Heaven forbid that men be expected to contribute something toward the upbringing of their children.

Yet again, this is a double standard. You are placing all of the responsibility solely on one participant. It's dishonest. Take responsibility for YOURSELF.

Drawing equivalency between homicide and suicide is ridiculous. You do realize there's a biiiig difference between killing yourself and killing someone else, right? Either way, you're still wrong. A quick search turns up dozens of stories on men committing suicide after divorce.

It's only ridiculous in your opinion, and it's clear to me you didn't actually understand the point that I was trying to make: this gets high profile visibility but countless other people who have had all but their literal life stolen from them don't count? Where are the high profile, high visibility articles about one individual man who committed suicide after being ravaged by a one-sided divorce? Oh, they don't really exist? Neat!

This is why fewer and fewer people take YOUR arguments seriously and why the favoritism in family courts is falling out of style. You basically just said "I don't care if people commit suicide because they've had their entire lives stolen from them forcibly by a court" while simultaneously trying to play morality police.

If you want to be a parent and he doesn't that's cool. It is your body. You keep the child, buuuut, he doesn't have to raise it. You act like female birth control doesn't exist. If it's her body she needs to take responsibility for it, not somebody else. You might be surprised at the number of women who suddenly opt to abort when the gravy train option isn't on the table.

PS we can pretend like women don't game the system and abuse it as their personal gravy train and we can pretend like the only people who still try to defend it aren't misandrist feminists.... buuuuuuutt.... that would be very disingenuous, wouldn't it?