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Topic	22 y/o MISOGYNIST Murdered his G/F because she REFUSED to get an ABORTION!!!
Lirishae 08/01/19 3:35:17 PM #37:	nfmsz posted... See the problem with this argument (aside from the fact that it's a double standard and thus disingenuous) is that you're basically minimizing women to the status of children, incapable of making their own decisions. She also chose to have sex. It's extremely dishonest and I'm going to call you on it whether you meant to be dishonest or not. What's dishonest here is pretending that men and women's say should be equal when the responsibility and consequences are inherently unequal. Because women actually carry the pregnancy, they assume all of the health risks and the lion's share of childcare. This is why they get the final say in whether or not to abort. The alternative is allowing men with no legal relationship to a woman to make medical decisions on her behalf. If you don't see why that's wrong, there's probably nothing I can say that will help you understand. nfmsz posted... If she had chosen to abort and he wanted to keep it, he'd have no say. If she wanted to keep it, and he didn't, he'd have no say. He'd also get the pleasure of giving this woman money every month she probably isn't even spending on his child. Courts absolutely favor women in custody disputes and this dude was going to be paying out the ass for the next 18 years, and those payments were going to be extortion levels of exorbitant. Think 60-70% of his pay checks with zero regard for his comfort or personal safety. Basically these arguments always free the woman of responsibility (and the consequences!) and shove it all on the male when it is convenient as if it doesn't take two to tango. All of which the man could have avoided if he'd used a condom. Your idea of equality is apparently men being able to father children and abandon them. Single women are already holding up their end of the bargain; they take care of the child and pay most of the costs for raising them (which are enormous btw; I sincerely doubt the woman in your example will have any money left over). Heaven forbid that men be expected to contribute something toward the upbringing of their children. nfmsz posted... It's neat how this woman gets killed and it's national news but there are no stories about the countless men who commit suicide because their petty vindictive ex took it all. Drawing equivalency between homicide and suicide is ridiculous. You do realize there's a biiiig difference between killing yourself and killing someone else, right? Either way, you're still wrong. A quick search turns up dozens of stories on men committing suicide after divorce. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:925485467] in 22 y/o MIS... [t:77903066]...</cite> <quote>nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>See the problem with this argument (aside from the fact that it's a double standard and thus disingenuous) is that you're basically minimizing women to the status of children, incapable of making their own decisions. She also chose to have sex. It's extremely dishonest and I'm going to call you on it whether you meant to be dishonest or not.</quote> What's dishonest here is pretending that men and women's say should be equal when the responsibility and consequences are inherently unequal. Because women actually carry the pregnancy, they assume all of the health risks and the lion's share of childcare. This is why they get the final say in whether or not to abort. The alternative is allowing men with no legal relationship to a woman to make medical decisions on her behalf. If you don't see why that's wrong, there's probably nothing I can say that will help you understand. nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>If she had chosen to abort and he wanted to keep it, he'd have no say. If she wanted to keep it, and he didn't, he'd have no say. He'd also get the pleasure of giving this woman money every month she probably isn't even spending on his child. Courts absolutely favor women in custody disputes and this dude was going to be paying out the ass for the next 18 years, and those payments were going to be extortion levels of exorbitant. Think 60-70% of his pay checks with zero regard for his comfort or personal safety. Basically these arguments always free the woman of responsibility (and the consequences!) and shove it all on the male when it is convenient as if it doesn't take two to tango.</quote> All of which the man could have avoided if he'd used a condom. Your idea of equality is apparently men being able to father children and abandon them. Single women are already holding up their end of the bargain; they take care of the child and pay most of the costs for raising them (which are enormous btw; I sincerely doubt the woman in your example will have any money left over). Heaven forbid that men be expected to contribute something toward the upbringing of their children. nfmsz posted...</cite> <quote>It's neat how this woman gets killed and it's national news but there are no stories about the countless men who commit suicide because their petty vindictive ex took it all.</quote> Drawing equivalency between homicide and suicide is ridiculous. You do realize there's a biiiig difference between killing yourself and killing someone else, right? Either way, you're still wrong. A quick search turns up dozens of stories on men committing suicide after divorce. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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