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TopicTexas Border Concentration Camp is Neglecting Children
pinky0926
06/26/19 10:01:10 AM
#96:


*reads through topic*

Gosh that was surprising, here's my shocked face.

Anyway, about "concentration camps", and how the holocaust comparisons are "unfair":

We make these critiques because we know that the Holocaust isn't an event suspended in time, with no ideological or material precursors, that can never happen again. The fascists didn't begin by slaughtering Jewish people en masse either, they began by scaremongering racial animosity, gradually outlawing the functional existence of minorities, then came the camps, which resulted eventually in death camps. By setting your own impossible standard for what constitutes a fair comparison, you're able to gradually excuse every heinous action. For many, the defense against the idea that right wing politics in America were fascist in nature was "at least they're not being put in military-run camps against their will." Now that they are, a whole new set of justification are employed. Horrible conditions that stamp on people's dignity as human beings simply "could be nicer." Fleeing US-imposed economic conditions of poverty is simply something refugees "choose" to do, and thus no one is morally responsible for putting them in concentration camps they can't leave.

It's disrespectful to actual victims of the holocaust to sit around and say that there is another holocaust going on. [sic]


This is a statement you've literally conjured out of thin air. Show me were Ocasio-Cortez said this. You can't, because she clearly called them what they are, concentrations camps, and because you have no historical analysis, no ideological genealogy of institutionalized racial violence like this, you immediately assume we're mistaken and that concentration camps can only be outright death camps. Do I need to run through the history of the British actually developing the modern concentration camp in the Boer War? Their usage by the British in the Punjab? Or would that be "disrespectful to actual victims of the holocaust [sic]" because those weren't outright death camps?

But instead, people are trying to be all self righteous and bitch about the horrid conditions that they're doing jack shit about, while minimizing the suffering of actual holocaust victims by comparing the events. [sic]


So the numerous holocaust survivors, historians, etc who have stood by AOC's critique, what about them? This is a nice rhetorical trick you've pulled, where you get to stand in for survivors while ignoring what they're actually saying about these concentration camps.
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