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Kyuubi4269 posted...

That's not how it's presented.

It is if you pay attention. Again, try to keep up.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

if you can't be proud to be straight then whats left?
ashamed?
embarrassed?

Ambivalent? Perhaps relieved, since it means you're extremely unlikely to ever face any sort of hardship as a consequence of your orientation? It's not really something that warrants a particularly active emotional response. It's simply a part of who you are that doesn't deviate sufficiently from the status quo to have any remarkable impact on your life.

Noop_Noop posted...

singling out anything that youre born with is indeed stupid. you should be proud of what you accomplish.

Hence everything else I've posted in this topic.

Noop_Noop posted...

you do understand that not having shame, and having pride are two very different things right? pride is something you should have in your accomplishments, and unless we are suddenly taking the stance that being gay IS a choice, then its not an accomplishment.

Shame and pride are opposite ends of a spectrum. If you're not being ashamed of something when you're being told to, then you're having more pride than is expected of you, therefore you are relatively proud. Not feeling shame when the world around you tries to force you to can also definitely qualify as an accomplishment worthy of pride in a more absolute sense, though obviously that's going to depend on exactly why people want you to feel ashamed (e.g. Hitler should have been ashamed of Hitlering).

Really, though, the word choice doesn't matter. Gay Pride's existence serves to inspire and comfort LGBT people living in fear of coming out or feeling despair over how their life is going by showing them that there is a supportive community out there that has experienced the same things they have and overcome them. Diminishing that because the word "pride" might not technically be the most accurate term to use is a level of self-gratifying pedantry that even I can't get behind.