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_AdjI_ 05/24/19 10:34:29 PM #348:	Kyuubi4269 posted... You're also not allowed to kill your child because you don't want to spend money on it. Ergo, women lose the ability to legally choose to eat less than their appetite demands once they become pregnant, thereby infringing on their bodily autonomy. Kyuubi4269 posted... Do you really think no mad man has ever threatened a woman to not give birth? In a clearly-documented case? I doubt it. If she's delivering in a hospital setting or with any other sort of assistance, that means he's not going to be able to follow through on that threat due to the presence of witnesses. If she's forced to deliver at home while he whacks off to her not pushing, odds are she and the baby will just end up another "died in childbirth" statistic. Kyuubi4269 posted... It's viable to let it happen, it's just highly undesirable. "Viable" and "technically possible" are not the same thing. Kyuubi4269 posted... Cosmetic plastic surgery would've been a "better" example as it's "fixing" a non-existent problem. No, any elective surgery works. You have something going on with your body that you feel impedes your ability to live life as you desire, so you get it fixed, even though it's not life-threatening. This describes the abortion of an unwanted pregnancy quite accurately. Kyuubi4269 posted... If you shift your perspective enough, we're bobbles in a 9D fabric energy mesh blipping in and out of reality randomly. Sure, but that's getting away from "semantic reductionism" territory and into "making up nonsense because you don't understand the point territory," so I can't say I really see much reason to consider that angle. Kyuubi4269 posted... Rape culture would indeed be a culture of rape. Much like "hydrophobic" means that the tails of phospholipids contain tiny amygdalas that generate a fear response, right? Sometimes, concepts are described using terms which most closely summarize them, even if that means there's some room for interpretation. "Culture that is too permissive of and too willing to normalize sexual violence and harassment" doesn't really roll off the tongue as well. Kyuubi4269 posted... That's the only one that requires intervention; the fact it's being complained about suggests that is what is meant. That's... really not how language works. But I'll humour you by saying that it's not the only one that requires intervention, but rather the only one that's easy to intervene in. The actual wage gap is a consequence of deep-seeded cultural trends and attitudes that influence career choices, which many people are happy to hand-wave away instead of trying to do something about it by changing their own attitudes. That's what's being complained about. Kyuubi4269 posted... If reality is that feminists engage in a postmodern "words mean what I want, and if you don't understand me then you're being malicious" mindset. Yes, feminists invented the concept of connotations, and the people deliberately ignoring connotations are the real victims of undeserved character assassination. Now, that's not to say a great many SJW-types don't make far too many assumptions about how well-understood their choice of jargon is and/or become defensive and presume malice instead of explaining themselves when questioned. As a whole, people are often pretty bad at communicating concepts they feel should be self-evident. But you're kidding yourself if you don't think many of the people doing the questioning are being deliberately obtuse and refuse to listen to those explanations or address the actual point being said instead of quibbling over terminology. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:922337031] in Why are pe... [t:77719119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>You're also not allowed to kill your child because you don't want to spend money on it.</quote> Ergo, women lose the ability to legally choose to eat less than their appetite demands once they become pregnant, thereby infringing on their bodily autonomy. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you really think no mad man has ever threatened a woman to not give birth?</quote> In a clearly-documented case? I doubt it. If she's delivering in a hospital setting or with any other sort of assistance, that means he's not going to be able to follow through on that threat due to the presence of witnesses. If she's forced to deliver at home while he whacks off to her not pushing, odds are she and the baby will just end up another "died in childbirth" statistic. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's viable to let it happen, it's just highly undesirable.</quote> "Viable" and "technically possible" are not the same thing. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Cosmetic plastic surgery would've been a "better" example as it's "fixing" a non-existent problem.</quote> No, any elective surgery works. You have something going on with your body that you feel impedes your ability to live life as you desire, so you get it fixed, even though it's not life-threatening. This describes the abortion of an unwanted pregnancy quite accurately. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>If you shift your perspective enough, we're bobbles in a 9D fabric energy mesh blipping in and out of reality randomly.</quote> Sure, but that's getting away from "semantic reductionism" territory and into "making up nonsense because you don't understand the point territory," so I can't say I really see much reason to consider that angle. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Rape culture would indeed be a culture of rape.</quote> Much like "hydrophobic" means that the tails of phospholipids contain tiny amygdalas that generate a fear response, right? Sometimes, concepts are described using terms which most closely summarize them, even if that means there's some room for interpretation. "Culture that is too permissive of and too willing to normalize sexual violence and harassment" doesn't really roll off the tongue as well. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>That's the only one that requires intervention; the fact it's being complained about suggests that is what is meant.</quote> That's... really not how language works. But I'll humour you by saying that it's not the only one that requires intervention, but rather the only one that's easy to intervene in. The actual wage gap is a consequence of deep-seeded cultural trends and attitudes that influence career choices, which many people are happy to hand-wave away instead of trying to do something about it by changing their own attitudes. That's what's being complained about. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> If reality is that feminists engage in a postmodern "words mean what I want, and if you don't understand me then you're being malicious" mindset. Yes, feminists invented the concept of connotations, and the people deliberately ignoring connotations are the real victims of undeserved character assassination. Now, that's not to say a great many SJW-types don't make far too many assumptions about how well-understood their choice of jargon is and/or become defensive and presume malice instead of explaining themselves when questioned. As a whole, people are often pretty bad at communicating concepts they feel should be self-evident. But you're kidding yourself if you don't think many of the people doing the questioning are being deliberately obtuse and refuse to listen to those explanations or address the actual point being said instead of quibbling over terminology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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