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Topic	Why are people freaking out over Alabama?
_AdjI_ 05/23/19 5:51:25 PM #314:	OhhhJa posted... There is actually data to back that up though. For instance, stem is dominated by men because men choose to go into stem and not because men are pushing them out. And there are far more women nurses, housekeepers, and babysitters for that very reason as well So it's sexist when it's taken into account in determining who will be more inclined to be a good parent, but not when it's taken into account when choosing a career? Kyuubi4269 posted... Because it's an attempt to bypass the law. You're allowed to under eat, you're not allowed to attempt to kill the fetus. And what if you under eat because you just don't want to have to budget more for food, with the fetus' health being entirely ancillary to that? Oh hey the law restricts your freedom in that regard because being pregnant means no more autonomy for you. Kyuubi4269 posted... The process does. You're strongly encouraged physically to get it out so no sane person is just going to sit and wait, but there was that woman with a bike handle in her vag for 2 years so clearly there are some people that insane. Considering they exist, don't you think it's odd that there's no case of a person keep their baby inside forever? It would certainly be newsworthy, but it never has and never will happen. That woman didn't seek medical attention because husband explicitly threatened to hurt her if she did (since you supposedly read the article, you should know this). Blaming her failure to seek medical attention on her sanity is rather foolish of you. As for childbirth, I sincerely hope you don't think that lying there and letting it happen is a viable enough option to insist that the whole process is passive. Even if it can technically work that way, calling that a viable option is indeed truly insane, and I'm deeply concerned that you brought it up. Kyuubi4269 posted... Whether you feel the need or not is irrelevant. If you go to a doctor for a problem that doesn't exist, they will turn you away. The entire concept of elective surgery says hi. Kyuubi4269 posted... Are you seriously implying that the force of a falling skyscraper has agency? Because it don't. The agency we ascribe to a conscious, sentient being? No. Enough agency to be the subject of a verb? Yes. The passive/active distinction is typically applied specifically to identifying whether or not a human participated consciously in the process, but if you shift your perspective appropriately, nothing is truly passive because every process and action is performed by some entity. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:922284211] in Why are pe... [t:77719119]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>There is actually data to back that up though. For instance, stem is dominated by men because men choose to go into stem and not because men are pushing them out. And there are far more women nurses, housekeepers, and babysitters for that very reason as well</quote> So it's sexist when it's taken into account in determining who will be more inclined to be a good parent, but not when it's taken into account when choosing a career? <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Because it's an attempt to bypass the law. You're allowed to under eat, you're not allowed to attempt to kill the fetus.</quote> And what if you under eat because you just don't want to have to budget more for food, with the fetus' health being entirely ancillary to that? Oh hey the law restricts your freedom in that regard because being pregnant means no more autonomy for you. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>The process does. You're strongly encouraged physically to get it out so no sane person is just going to sit and wait, but there was that woman with a bike handle in her vag for 2 years so clearly there are some people that insane. Considering they exist, don't you think it's odd that there's no case of a person keep their baby inside forever? It would certainly be newsworthy, but it never has and never will happen.</quote> That woman didn't seek medical attention because husband explicitly threatened to hurt her if she did (since you supposedly read the article, you should know this). Blaming her failure to seek medical attention on her sanity is rather foolish of you. As for childbirth, I sincerely hope you don't think that lying there and letting it happen is a viable enough option to insist that the whole process is passive. Even if it can technically work that way, calling that a viable option is indeed truly insane, and I'm deeply concerned that you brought it up. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Whether you feel the need or not is irrelevant. If you go to a doctor for a problem that doesn't exist, they will turn you away.</quote> The entire concept of elective surgery says hi. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Are you seriously implying that the force of a falling skyscraper has agency? Because it don't.</quote> The agency we ascribe to a conscious, sentient being? No. Enough agency to be the subject of a verb? Yes. The passive/active distinction is typically applied specifically to identifying whether or not a human participated consciously in the process, but if you shift your perspective appropriately, nothing is truly passive because every process and action is performed by some entity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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