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Entity13 04/26/19 11:34:51 PM #170:	...leans on quantity, definitely. Punisher? Didn't need to happen, but they crammed it in because of how popular the character was in another show that should have had a better second season than it had (and then Punisher season 1 ended up being boring). Luke Cage season 1 and Iron Fist season 1? There were so many issues that could have been fixed by giving them a joint show from the get-go. Defenders? It rode the hype train and crashed in an alleyway somewhere, not even necessary in its existence as early as it happened. The shows dipped in quality, yes, but so much of it is from being spread thin in the area of quality control and not having a good plan for everything BEFORE most of it was made. So of course people got tired. ParanoidObsessive posted... Yeah, but even there, you're just proving my point. You don't NEED shove as many plot threads in or "send the main character off" unless you're making the arbitrary decision that the movie NEEDS to be an epic conclusion to a trilogy, rather than "just another installment in a serial story" or "the third in a series of relatively stand-alone movies". Thinking in narrative framework of epic storytelling (or three-act structure) is what creates the pressure to "end" everything, which generally contributes to the mess. This may or may not prove both of our arguments here for differed reasons. My point was that the DK trilogy only needed to be a grand origin for the man and the myth, and his neverending quest for vengeance and eccentric-brooding-rich-dick flavor of justice. It didn't NEED to stuff half a dozen different story arcs into one thing. It over-burdened itself and its audience before any of us could get to the final act of the saga. That made the failures and shortcomings taste all the more foul by comparison. When you're tired, things that taste sub-mediocre will undoubtedly be that much worse. The fatigue was minor in this case, but it was there, because the movie did far more than it needed to, and people weren't having it. It's like ordering something from Olive Garden and being handed half a dozen different salads to tide you over before the main course arrived. ParanoidObsessive posted... This is straight up Star Wars' fault. Disney execs literally said "We don't need that sci-fi franchise that sort of appeals to teen boys, we have Star Wars now". Ye... no. That's Disney. Disney made the decision, and gave their love and affection to the adopted-yet-older child, leaving their actual child cold, hungry, and dying. Don't blame Star Wars for Disney's decisions, even if Star Wars came along around that time. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:921120029] in PotdMon: N... [t:77558720]...</cite> <quote>...leans on quantity, definitely. Punisher? Didn't need to happen, but they crammed it in because of how popular the character was in another show that should have had a better second season than it had (and then Punisher season 1 ended up being boring). Luke Cage season 1 and Iron Fist season 1? There were so many issues that could have been fixed by giving them a joint show from the get-go. Defenders? It rode the hype train and crashed in an alleyway somewhere, not even necessary in its existence as early as it happened. The shows dipped in quality, yes, but so much of it is from being spread thin in the area of quality control and not having a good plan for everything BEFORE most of it was made. So of course people got tired. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but even there, you're just proving my point. You don't NEED shove as many plot threads in or "send the main character off" unless you're making the arbitrary decision that the movie NEEDS to be an epic conclusion to a trilogy, rather than "just another installment in a serial story" or "the third in a series of relatively stand-alone movies". Thinking in narrative framework of epic storytelling (or three-act structure) is what creates the pressure to "end" everything, which generally contributes to the mess.</quote> This may or may not prove both of our arguments here for differed reasons. My point was that the DK trilogy only needed to be a grand origin for the man and the myth, and his neverending quest for vengeance and eccentric-brooding-rich-dick flavor of justice. It didn't NEED to stuff half a dozen different story arcs into one thing. It over-burdened itself and its audience before any of us could get to the final act of the saga. That made the failures and shortcomings taste all the more foul by comparison. When you're tired, things that taste sub-mediocre will undoubtedly be that much worse. The fatigue was minor in this case, but it was there, because the movie did far more than it needed to, and people weren't having it. It's like ordering something from Olive Garden and being handed half a dozen different salads to tide you over before the main course arrived. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>This is straight up Star Wars' fault. Disney execs literally said "We don't need that sci-fi franchise that sort of appeals to teen boys, we have Star Wars now". </quote> Ye... no. That's Disney. Disney made the decision, and gave their love and affection to the adopted-yet-older child, leaving their actual child cold, hungry, and dying. Don't blame Star Wars for Disney's decisions, even if Star Wars came along around that time. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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