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TopicUmineko Playthrough Topic Part 5
Dels
04/14/19 2:41:41 PM
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Sceptilesolar posted...
Dels posted...
when you consider that the game has basically told me "any scene could've been fake at any time" and then "any character can act out of character at any time because the witch can control them" and then "even things battler experiences that you see on screen could be wrong" and all of this on top of throwing in an absolutely obnoxious new character in a chapter where you're already forcing in some random illegitimate son and proving that anyone can be a killer depending on the whims of the gamemaster?


At least some of these conclusions you've come to are not things the game is trying to tell you at all.


meh, I may be exaggerating.

I suppose it's likely that Bern saying "I controlled Battler and made him smarter and made him say things" is meant to imply that this is the first and only time a "piece" has been controlled? But also maybe not?

And like

We're immediately told that Battler seeing Kinzo can still be not-real because maybe he imagined it. Therefore maybe he didn't actually see Beatrice at the end of ep 4? But I dunno, is there anything else Battler has "imagined" during eps 1 to 4 that I just didn't even realize could or would be imagination?

It just annoys me that the game is so clearly aware of how to make a mystery fair and solveable, that's the whole point of the red text, the clear definition of closed rooms and clearly saying who is dead, and even talking about knox's rules, which basically exist to prevent mysteries from having any unsolveable bullshit. And yet the game seems to also have a ton of unsolveable bullshit because it shows you fake things on screen.

I guess I'm salty about the "Kinzo has been dead all along" thing because I just don't see how a viewer was meant to have any idea those scenes were fake.

Hell didn't some servants have alibis in episode 2 because we saw them talking to Kinzo? Now those are all thrown out the window...
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