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Topic	Hearthstone Discussion Topic 493 - Rise of Shadows Is Upon Us
metroid composite 04/09/19 11:33:38 AM #94:	KokoroAkechi posted... Eccentric Scribe (1) -I think for a token deck this is too slow. It is neutral Savannah Highmane and I'm definitely going to be experimenting with it in anything with the slightest bit of token synergy. KokoroAkechi posted... Safeguard (1) -You know if the safe had like even 1 attack maybe this is not complete trash. Still think it's playable even with a 0 attack safe. Both halves are mechs, so you drop it, are pretty sure you'll stay alive, and often have a magnetic target next turn. 1 attack safe would be like...better than sludge belcher territory, 0 attack safe is probably more niche. Though sure, I think you need some kind of mech synergy or deathrattle synergy before you pick this over other taunt options. KokoroAkechi posted... Proud Defender (1) -Kind of like Lonechampion mixed with a Tarcreeper. But the higher cost and persistent effect makes this less desirable. Ok, like, for real though people are going too run neutral taunts, and Tar Creeper is rotating out. Neutral taunts that see play and aren't rotating out are like...Zilliax obviously but that's just one card, cube/res targets like Witchwood Grizzly and Mosh'Ogg Enforcer, and Amani War Bear. And Phantom Militia cause it completes quest. Amani War Bear is the only one that would go into general purpose decks. Maybe Witchwood Grizzly but if you don't res it it's like a 3/7 taunt for 5. I could also see Rotten Applebaum make a comeback, and maybe Furious Ettin or Phantom Militia or Belligerent Gnome or Omega Defender show up finally. But TBH my instinct is that taunts from RoS are better than those cards. This is a 4/6 taunt for 4 reasonably often, and sometimes a 2/6 taunt for 4 which still does the taunt job. KokoroAkechi posted... Barista Lychen (1) -The effect is potentially strong, but I think it's too slow and situational to see play. It's Aoe Zola, for 2 more mana and 5 more stats. It's pretty good. For example, use it on the 5/5 monstrocity that Hagatha gives you; clear the board with the monstrocity probably, and get another Hagatha reward, and potentially another Hagatha if she wasn't killed. In theory big value plays might start mattering now that there's no infinite value from death knights. KokoroAkechi posted... Hecklebot (5) -Great versus aggro, potentially game winning against combo. Stated extremely well for the cost and cheap enough where you can remove what comes out. Ah, ok, this is the neutral taunt you expect to see play. Eh. I mean, combo disruption, sure. But outside of combo disruption, if this pulls a 3/3, 3/2, or 3/1, then this is basically a 3/5 taunt for 5. Taz'Dingo!!! If this pulls a giant, then it's really bad, the giant clears then 3/8, and then you've spent 4 mana to summon an 8/5 for your opponent. So it's only really good against aggro if it pulls a 1 or 2 attack minion. As a combo disruption tool that's usually a Taz'Dingo against aggro it's fine, though. --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:920244302] in Hearthston... [t:77608936]...</cite> <quote><cite>KokoroAkechi posted...</cite> <quote>Eccentric Scribe (1) -I think for a token deck this is too slow.</quote> It is neutral Savannah Highmane and I'm definitely going to be experimenting with it in anything with the slightest bit of token synergy. <cite>KokoroAkechi posted...</cite> <quote>Safeguard (1) -You know if the safe had like even 1 attack maybe this is not complete trash. </quote> Still think it's playable even with a 0 attack safe. Both halves are mechs, so you drop it, are pretty sure you'll stay alive, and often have a magnetic target next turn. 1 attack safe would be like...better than sludge belcher territory, 0 attack safe is probably more niche. Though sure, I think you need some kind of mech synergy or deathrattle synergy before you pick this over other taunt options. <cite>KokoroAkechi posted...</cite> <quote>Proud Defender (1) -Kind of like Lonechampion mixed with a Tarcreeper. But the higher cost and persistent effect makes this less desirable. </quote> Ok, like, for real though people are going too run neutral taunts, and Tar Creeper is rotating out. Neutral taunts that see play and aren't rotating out are like...Zilliax obviously but that's just one card, cube/res targets like Witchwood Grizzly and Mosh'Ogg Enforcer, and Amani War Bear. And Phantom Militia cause it completes quest. Amani War Bear is the only one that would go into general purpose decks. Maybe Witchwood Grizzly but if you don't res it it's like a 3/7 taunt for 5. I could also see Rotten Applebaum make a comeback, and maybe Furious Ettin or Phantom Militia or Belligerent Gnome or Omega Defender show up finally. But TBH my instinct is that taunts from RoS are better than those cards. This is a 4/6 taunt for 4 reasonably often, and sometimes a 2/6 taunt for 4 which still does the taunt job. <cite>KokoroAkechi posted...</cite> <quote>Barista Lychen (1) -The effect is potentially strong, but I think it's too slow and situational to see play. </quote> It's Aoe Zola, for 2 more mana and 5 more stats. It's pretty good. For example, use it on the 5/5 monstrocity that Hagatha gives you; clear the board with the monstrocity probably, and get another Hagatha reward, and potentially another Hagatha if she wasn't killed. In theory big value plays might start mattering now that there's no infinite value from death knights. <cite>KokoroAkechi posted...</cite> <quote>Hecklebot (5) -Great versus aggro, potentially game winning against combo. Stated extremely well for the cost and cheap enough where you can remove what comes out.</quote> Ah, ok, this is the neutral taunt you expect to see play. Eh. I mean, combo disruption, sure. But outside of combo disruption, if this pulls a 3/3, 3/2, or 3/1, then this is basically a 3/5 taunt for 5. Taz'Dingo!!! If this pulls a giant, then it's really bad, the giant clears then 3/8, and then you've spent 4 mana to summon an 8/5 for your opponent. So it's only really good against aggro if it pulls a 1 or 2 attack minion. As a combo disruption tool that's usually a Taz'Dingo against aggro it's fine, though. --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. 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