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TopicHow is Trump's Approval rating still at 45%?
darkknight109
01/29/19 12:10:30 AM
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Zeus posted...
Then you literally have a hearing/vision problem or a memory issue because I've brought this to you specifically, in addition to all of the other times I've discussed this.

Nope!

Zeus posted...
No, I'm pointing out that PC has moving goalposts and when you got into the game directly impacts roughly where those goalposts lie.

So why not say that in your original post? All you said is "Calling people animals is racist", not "Calling people animals is racist, as long as you were born after 1970. " I mean, shouldn't you be checking the ages of the posters you were trying to call out if that's your view? Or does that only apply to Donald Trump?

Plus, as I mentioned earlier, I haven't had any issues adopting to new social mores and neither have any of the seniors I know. The language that was commonplace when I was in high school would be considered extraordinarily offensive now, yet somehow I've managed to keep up with the times and change my idioms as necessary to avoid being an asshole.

Zeus posted...
However, you're talking about a guy old enough to have grown up at a time when colored was the racially acceptable way to refer to blacks because people decided that the n-word was offensive.

I'm also talking about the fucking President of the United States. Donald Trump isn't just "some random old guy", he occupies the highest office in the USA. I feel like a politician - nevermind the supposed-"leader of the free world" - should at least have enough capacity for understanding human social trends to avoid making such an easily avoidable gaffe.

I mean, I can't remember Obama screwing that up. Or Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton, if you prefer someone in Trump's age demographic, yet Trump gets repeatedly stung by this sort of language and behaviour. That's not something that can - or should - be excused.

Zeus posted...
However, if a non-native, non-English speaker heard the word used and repeated it, you would hardly call him racist despite the n-word being widely viewed as one of the most racist words ever.

Fair point. Only one problem with it: Donald Trump isn't a non-native and despite his at-times torturous prose, English is his first language.

Yeah, if someone who can barely string a sentence together uses a racial slur because they're repeating something they heard in a song somewhere or something like that, that's understandable and eminently forgivable. But that's not what Trump was doing - he knew exactly what the connotations of that word, and that particular use of that word, were. We know that he knew it, because *people fucking pointed it out to him*. And then he used it again directly in response to them.

To tie it back to your analogy, if that barely-speaks-English foreigner says a racial slur that he didn't realize was offensive, you can chalk that up to simple ignorance. But if you explain to them that it's offensive, and explain *why* people don't use that word in polite company, and they continue to use it anyways they've lost that "I just didn't know any better" defence.

Zeus posted...
That's a very glib interpretation. It also completely misses the point.

So explain it. Elaborate and actually back up your argument. That's what I've been prompting you to do from my first post in this topic.

Zeus posted...
The vast majority of seniors are un-PC in some area

*citation needed*
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