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TopicTrump: Children immigrant deaths are strictly Democrats fault
VipaGTS
12/29/18 3:13:19 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
VipaGTS posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
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TheRealDill1999 posted...
Trump is right here. If we paid for the wall, these people would not be making this journey and dying in the process.

People will keep saying this but its entirely not true. For a better life people will be willing to make that trip and find a way. Hell even to come over legally many would still have to make trips like that.

"B-but if we had open borders, parents wouldn't need to drag their children through thousands of miles of hostile desert" is a shit argument

Thats not my argument. If we had a Wall no one would come towards it is the shit argument in question here. I dont want open borders either. I understand that many families, open or not, will still have to make trips like that. A wall wont stop those journeys. Not sure why you quoted me to say that tho.

Bullshit. You've already said you can't blame someone for trying to escape a shithole. How many refugees do you think we should take then? Anyone who is left out can't be blamed for forcing their child into a violent, dangerous journey after all.

Ok. That still doesnt mean open borders and that still doesnt mean they wont have to make this journey. Thus, me arguing that we need a wall to prevent this! Is a stupid argument. What is So hard about that for you to understand? I think Trump trying to deflect blame is horrible.

If you want to blame the parents and Dems for not funding the wall then by all means go ahead. I disagree strongly with the latter. I can see merit in the former but 1. Disagree that a wall will prevent it and 2. I Wont make a parent a villain for trying to get their family a better life in a case like this. I also think the detention centers responsible for caring for these children (another thing I personally think we shouldnt do, separate them) should be held responsible for what happens while the children are in their care.
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