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Topic	Is addiction a disease?
_AdjI_ 12/22/18 11:45:22 PM #39:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Addiction doesn't remove responsibility, you can stop at any time and failure to do so means you are a failure. And how do you propose stopping when the only thing that provides any sense of fulfillment is another hit? It's easy to talk about willpower if you ignore that willpower is just a matter of neurochemistry, neurochemistry which is very seriously thrown out of whack by addiction. If you don't respond to natural dopamine, you don't have the ability to be motivated. Kyuubi4269 posted... My only experience is my dad on a 60 a day habit who quit cold turkey the day he couldn't smoke inside. Literally quit out of convenience, so I have a hard time taking addicts seriously. Remember that other topic where you were trying to assert that the sample size for pro-trans bathroom policies was too small to conclude that they didn't increase sexual assault rates? And then you waltz into this topic and base your entire suite of beliefs on the matter off of n=1? Something which you admit immediately after saying that you yourself are particularly resistant to addictions, thereby acknowledging that there is some degree of variance which likely played a role in that single subject who just so happens to share half of your genome? I'm amazed you don't feel more cognitive dissonance than you do. You're so terribly inconsistent. DrCidd posted... _AdjI_ posted... And those who were prescribed a reasonable dose of opioids because they were the best option for them and subsequently developed an addiction to them? See DrCidd posted... Alright, you got me, I can shoot someone up with heroin against their will to the point that they become physically addicted to it. That still doesn't make it a disease. It's like you didn't bother reading the topic. Do you not believe that people can develop opioid addictions without exceeding a reasonable dose (prior to the onset of the addiction)? Or do you believe that people should refuse any sort of medication or treatment that carries any possibility of addiction, regardless of whether or not it's the only possible treatment for what's ailing them? DrCidd posted... That doesn't mean my addiction is a disease. _AdjI_ posted... 1. a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment. Dictionary.com disagrees. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:914577359] in Is addicti... [t:77326117]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Addiction doesn't remove responsibility, you can stop at any time and failure to do so means you are a failure.</quote> And how do you propose stopping when the only thing that provides any sense of fulfillment is another hit? It's easy to talk about willpower if you ignore that willpower is just a matter of neurochemistry, neurochemistry which is very seriously thrown out of whack by addiction. If you don't respond to natural dopamine, you don't have the ability to be motivated. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>My only experience is my dad on a 60 a day habit who quit cold turkey the day he couldn't smoke inside. Literally quit out of convenience, so I have a hard time taking addicts seriously.</quote> Remember that other topic where you were trying to assert that the sample size for pro-trans bathroom policies was too small to conclude that they didn't increase sexual assault rates? And then you waltz into this topic and base your entire suite of beliefs on the matter off of n=1? Something which you admit immediately after saying that you yourself are particularly resistant to addictions, thereby acknowledging that there is some degree of variance which likely played a role in that single subject who just so happens to share half of your genome? I'm amazed you don't feel more cognitive dissonance than you do. You're so terribly inconsistent. <cite>DrCidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>And those who were prescribed a reasonable dose of opioids because they were the best option for them and subsequently developed an addiction to them?</quote> See <cite>DrCidd posted...</cite> <quote>Alright, you got me, I can shoot someone up with heroin against their will to the point that they become physically addicted to it. That still doesn't make it a disease.</quote> It's like you didn't bother reading the topic.</quote> Do you not believe that people can develop opioid addictions without exceeding a reasonable dose (prior to the onset of the addiction)? Or do you believe that people should refuse any sort of medication or treatment that carries any possibility of addiction, regardless of whether or not it's the only possible treatment for what's ailing them? <cite>DrCidd posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't mean my addiction is a disease.</quote> <cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>1. a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.</quote> Dictionary.com disagrees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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